Vape-heads? Do You Vape?

[daisygirl]

Originally Posted by meridiantoo

Daisy,

Thank you so much for responding to me. I needed this information before I could confidently make my first purchase. I have concluded that I will need about 15 cartomizers and about 1 15ml. bottle of liquid to start. Does this sound about right? I am getting a manual e-cig with a usb charger/wall charger. Will this do, do you think?

I understand about your taste buds changing. I quit smoking for 2 years long ago and my taste buds totally changed. I loved it once they settled down and I got full taste back!

I really appreciate your help with all this. It's new to me and while I can read about it, nothing compares to hearing someone's personal advice and experience.

Meri

I'm glad i can help! You'll want more than one bottle of liquid. Try a few flavors. Each cartomizer can easily hold 1.2 ml of liquid so you'll find yourself needing more than 15ml. There are sites that sell decent inexpensive liquid. The Alice in Vapeland stuff is good - but it's expensive and in the beginning you should start with inexpensive so you can figure out what you like. Mt Baker Vapor is one place to get decent flavors and it's not expensive - i haven't ordered from them for a while but i liked what i got. There's one liquid i highly recommend and that's lily's liquid, sold by bamsbbq on nu-vapor (he takes orders through pm's and referrals) and he makes it all himself. He charges what is the *usual* standard of $.50/ml. When you start paying much more than that you're getting into the more gourmet flavors and in the beginning you'll want to try a bunch so it doesn't hurt to start with a non-gourmet juice maker.

15 cartos will last you a while, especially if you have a handful of flavors, you'll have some back-ups. A manual is the best choice, you get used to pushing the button really quick, it's just going to be a difference in how you inhale because you can't draw on it like you would a ciggie - but you'll figure that out too As long as you get the usb and wall chargers, you should be set to start!

I'm daisygirlie on nu-vapor and i chat there (video chat, then click text chat once you see the list, we're normally there in the evenings) if you want to come learn some stuff, we're all there to help and we love helping new people. Some people will even help with juice, etc. to help you get started so you don't have to pay a fortune for things

Originally Posted by meridiantoo

I am reading this thread closer and coming across posts to respond to...

I am still in the ordering process of my first starter kit, so I have no idea what the dry mouth thing is about, but I'm sure I will find out soon enough.

However, smoking dries my mouth out, so I have tried a dry-mouth mouthwash specifically to lubricate and it helps a lot. One that I use is by Biotene and it works really well. Just a thought.

I agree on the Biotene, i have it too. I started using it after i got my tonsils out 2 months ago (not a fun time for a grown up or a vaper, lol) and i found that it helps when i'm vaping high PG juices, because PG causes dry mouth. If you're having a lot of problems, i'd switch to a lower PG, higher VG or all VG juice. Hopefully Strappie will see this too

-daisy

[meridiantoo]

Originally Posted by daisygirl

I'm glad i can help! You'll want more than one bottle of liquid. Try a few flavors. Each cartomizer can easily hold 1.2 ml of liquid so you'll find yourself needing more than 15ml. There are sites that sell decent inexpensive liquid. The Alice in Vapeland stuff is good - but it's expensive and in the beginning you should start with inexpensive so you can figure out what you like. Mt Baker Vapor is one place to get decent flavors and it's not expensive - i haven't ordered from them for a while but i liked what i got. There's one liquid i highly recommend and that's lily's liquid, sold by bamsbbq on nu-vapor (he takes orders through pm's and referrals) and he makes it all himself. He charges what is the *usual* standard of $.50/ml. When you start paying much more than that you're getting into the more gourmet flavors and in the beginning you'll want to try a bunch so it doesn't hurt to start with a non-gourmet juice maker.

15 cartos will last you a while, especially if you have a handful of flavors, you'll have some back-ups. A manual is the best choice, you get used to pushing the button really quick, it's just going to be a difference in how you inhale because you can't draw on it like you would a ciggie - but you'll figure that out too As long as you get the usb and wall chargers, you should be set to start!

I'm daisygirlie on nu-vapor and i chat there (video chat, then click text chat once you see the list, we're normally there in the evenings) if you want to come learn some stuff, we're all there to help and we love helping new people. Some people will even help with juice, etc. to help you get started so you don't have to pay a fortune for things


I agree on the Biotene, i have it too. I started using it after i got my tonsils out 2 months ago (not a fun time for a grown up or a vaper, lol) and i found that it helps when i'm vaping high PG juices, because PG causes dry mouth. If you're having a lot of problems, i'd switch to a lower PG, higher VG or all VG juice. Hopefully Strappie will see this too

-daisy

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I am still doing research and learning all I can. I keep reading your older posts also. You've been wonderful, I really appreciate it.

Meri

[meridiantoo]

Daisy,

So, I know you recommended not ordering through vapor4life. And maybe it will end up being a regret, but I wanted the easiest method of starting this. So, I ordered one of their starter kits tonight and 2 - 30ml bottles of liquid with 15 cartomizers. I'm hoping this will be a decent way to get my feet wet and see if it's the answer for me.

Thank you again for all of your help and guidance. I keep reading on the nu-vapor site and researching in general, so I should have a pretty good idea of what I am doing by the time the order arrives.

[Loren_Q]

Originally Posted by meridiantoo

Daisy,

So, I know you recommended not ordering through vapor4life. And maybe it will end up being a regret, but I wanted the easiest method of starting this. So, I ordered one of their starter kits tonight and 2 - 30ml bottles of liquid with 15 cartomizers. I'm hoping this will be a decent way to get my feet wet and see if it's the answer for me.

Thank you again for all of your help and guidance. I keep reading on the nu-vapor site and researching in general, so I should have a pretty good idea of what I am doing by the time the order arrives.

Not to confuse matters even more but what if you don't like the flavor of liquid you picked?

It's hard because you haven't started and don't know where your tastes lie. I get buying a good supply, are you getting 2 different flavors? I know I've had liquids I've just not liked and if that was the only liquid I had... I'd be smoking.

Taste is so very subjective, I'm still test driving a bunch of different flavors/vendors, etc. It took me a couple of months to find my 'all-day-vape'

Good luck.

[daisygirl]

Originally Posted by Loren_Q

Not to confuse matters even more but what if you don't like the flavor of liquid you picked?

It's hard because you haven't started and don't know where your tastes lie. I get buying a good supply, are you getting 2 different flavors? I know I've had liquids I've just not liked and if that was the only liquid I had... I'd be smoking.

Taste is so very subjective, I'm still test driving a bunch of different flavors/vendors, etc. It took me a couple of months to find my 'all-day-vape'

Good luck.

I agree with Loren, you're better off buying a few smaller bottles than 2 big ones. There's such a range of flavors so hopefully you picked something you'd normally like tasting a lot - because you're going to be working with those 2 flavors you have and you may start to want something else. With a bunch of smaller bottles or, on some sites, sample kits, you can sort of taste the rainbow without breaking the bank.

Just make sure if you run out of something that you go buy something (to hold you over while you order some more juice online) like blu cartos - they *should* fit (i'm not sure what you're using) most standard starter kits as long as what you're using is referred to as "510 threaded." It's better to spend the $10-15 for a package of 5 blu cartos than picking up a ciggie if you get in a bind!

Since you're using V4L i don't know if you'll be getting 510 or their choice of threading - if you haven't ordered yet, make sure it says something like either "ego" or "510" - you will have trouble finding other parts, tanks, etc. if it's an 808, 901, 401 and there are a few others. I'm not saying not to order with them, that's completely your choice - just be an informed buyer

GL!

-daisy

[meridiantoo]

Originally Posted by daisygirl

I agree with Loren, you're better off buying a few smaller bottles than 2 big ones. There's such a range of flavors so hopefully you picked something you'd normally like tasting a lot - because you're going to be working with those 2 flavors you have and you may start to want something else. With a bunch of smaller bottles or, on some sites, sample kits, you can sort of taste the rainbow without breaking the bank.

Just make sure if you run out of something that you go buy something (to hold you over while you order some more juice online) like blu cartos - they *should* fit (i'm not sure what you're using) most standard starter kits as long as what you're using is referred to as "510 threaded." It's better to spend the $10-15 for a package of 5 blu cartos than picking up a ciggie if you get in a bind!

Since you're using V4L i don't know if you'll be getting 510 or their choice of threading - if you haven't ordered yet, make sure it says something like either "ego" or "510" - you will have trouble finding other parts, tanks, etc. if it's an 808, 901, 401 and there are a few others. I'm not saying not to order with them, that's completely your choice - just be an informed buyer

GL!

-daisy

Daisy ~

I totally get the idea of trying many different flavors of liquid. I purchased the 2 - 30 ml. bottles because they were on sale, basically, for the same price as a small bottle. The reviews were very good for each one - I checked before I chose them. One is cherry the other is pear. I also bought coffeehouse variety cartomizers, banana cartomizers, and green tea cartomizers. I thought about the flavors a lot before I selected them. I looked at the Alice in Vapeland site when they reopened for ordering and will definitely try their sample boxes in a few weeks. I am going out of town soon and will not be home to receive the shipment if I order now, so I will have to wait until I return.

The reason I chose the V4L start-up kit is that there are a lot of videos/reviews of their stuff on youtube. This doesn't mean much, I know. But, I really had a difficult time understanding the e-cig itself and the different model options and the differences between cartomizer and atomizers and batteries, etc. It was too much for me. I just wanted to order the simplest way possible to get started. And they seemed to be the simplest that I could find. There are drawbacks to this, I realize. One of them being I don't know exactly what kind of equipment I have yet. I'm guessing it's either a 510 or an 808, but I'm not positive yet.

Thank you for suggesting the blu-cartos. I don't anticipate going completely cigarette free for a while. So, I will likely do both during a day, but I would like to decrease my smoking as much as possible, as soon as I can. So, if I run out of juice, I will do that.

You have been great, Daisy, truly. I appreciate your help and guidance during all of this. I will pay it forward and help the next person wanting to get off the smoking bandwagon using e-cigs.

I will let you know how it goes when the kit arrives. I should receive it by Saturday.

Meri

[meridiantoo]

I was thinking about making a basic e-cig 101 post of all the stuff I have learned i.e. battery types, cartomizers vs. atomizers, etc. I only have limited knowledge so far, but I could make a basic post for those interested in a quick way to get the basic idea of e-cigs without having to search websites/youtube videos for hours. I work from home, so I have more time to spend doing this than most do. If you would be interested, thank this post. If I get a couple of hits, I will go ahead and do this.

[meridiantoo]

Originally Posted by Loren_Q

Not to confuse matters even more but what if you don't like the flavor of liquid you picked?

It's hard because you haven't started and don't know where your tastes lie. I get buying a good supply, are you getting 2 different flavors? I know I've had liquids I've just not liked and if that was the only liquid I had... I'd be smoking.

Taste is so very subjective, I'm still test driving a bunch of different flavors/vendors, etc. It took me a couple of months to find my 'all-day-vape'

Good luck.

Loren,

I read the reviews from users who have sampled the liquids and gave them high/good reviews. This doesn't mean I will like them, of course; I'm just hoping for the best! I got 2 different flavors of bottle liquid and 3 different flavored atomizers. So, this should be enough to at least get me started. If all else fails, I will just order more/different liquid to try. Worst case, if I don't like it, I can send it someone else who may like it.

I imagine it does take a while to find your specific flavors. I don't anticipate that the first flavor choices will be the ones I decide to stick to.

Thanks for your input and insight!