Keeping up with VA asshattery

[AtLast]

Knowing that people like you, Jess are in Virginia helps a lot! has to hard to live there and have all of this going on.

[Jess]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Knowing that people like you, Jess are in Virginia helps a lot! has to hard to live there and have all of this going on.

It certainly has it's moments. We all do what we can, ya know..
Thanks for the support!

[SuperFemme]

PERSONALLY?

I think listening to Tiny Tim and watching Woody Allen and/or Roman Polanski movies will lead to incest, child rape and perhaps polygamy WAY faster than being married to boring old me.

If you marry me you may or may not love shoes a little too much but that is tame compared to what some straight christian/mormon folks are doing.

[Linus]

Can someone explain something to me (being Canadian and having a feeling this is some American legalese): am I understanding correctly that VA denies "civil rights" to felons (those who have served their time and are out in public) from the right to vote? Isn't this a constitutional violation (federal) of rights?

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Linus

Can someone explain something to me (being Canadian and having a feeling this is some American legalese): am I understanding correctly that VA denies "civil rights" to felons (those who have served their time and are out in public) from the right to vote? Isn't this a constitutional violation (federal) of rights?

It's kind of a misrepresentation.
After you discharge Parole, most states have to allow you to vote.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

It's kind of a misrepresentation.
After you discharge Parole, most states have to allow you to vote.

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

For the second time in a week, Virginia Gov. Robert F. McDonnell has angered black leaders and civil rights groups, this time when they learned of his plans to add another step for nonviolent felons to have their voting rights restored.

[UofMfan]

I am not in Virgina, nor do I want to. These are scary times for VA, and a sign of things to come if we don't open our eyes elsewhere.

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by Linus

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

Welcome to America, land of self righteous indignation and holier than thou attitudes about anyone who has ever done anything just the slightest bit wrong. And, since minorities are disproportionately jailed in this country, it helps keep those pesky minorities out of the voting booth where they might decide to vote Democrat.

Good luck to everyone in VA on the 19th, when the gun-totin' god-fearin' wacko wing nuts who are hiding their racism behind some non-existent threat to the 2nd Amendment strap their penises, I mean guns, to their belts and proceed to scare the crap out of everyone else. I really appreciate the fuck out of my tax dollars being wasted by the feds having to keep an eye on these ignorant asshats.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Linus

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

You have not technically served your time until you've discharged parole.
Besides, nobody wants felons to vote. Ridiculous, but true.

[christie]

I found this http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.r...ourceID=000286 in reference to felon voting by state.

Interesting information, especially when you look at the racial demographics. As Adele so correctly stated, the numbers are very disproportionate (and disturbing).

Originally Posted by Linus

Most states? Why do ANY state deny the right to vote because of criminal past (whether violent or not)? If you've done your time and served the sentence according to what was meted out why are simple civil rights denied? (as per the last link in Jess first post in this thread).

[Jess]

Originally Posted by Linus

Can someone explain something to me (being Canadian and having a feeling this is some American legalese): am I understanding correctly that VA denies "civil rights" to felons (those who have served their time and are out in public) from the right to vote? Isn't this a constitutional violation (federal) of rights?

From wiki coz it was an easy first hit:
In modern times, felons can receive punishments which range in severity; from probation, to imprisonment, to execution for premeditated murder or other serious crimes. In the United States felons often face additional consequences, such as the loss of voting rights in many states; exclusion from certain lines of work and difficulty in finding a job in others; prohibition from obtaining certain licences; exclusion from purchase and possession of firearms, ammunition and body armor; and ineligibility to run for, or be elected to, public office. In addition, some states consider a felony conviction to be grounds for an uncontested divorce. All of these losses of privileges, including others noted explicitly by the judge in sentencing, are known as collateral consequences of criminal charges. Finally, if a felon is not a U.S. citizen, that person may be subject to deportation after sentencing is complete.

I may be wrong about this, but to the best of my understanding the right to vote is generally reinstated after a felony sentence has been carried out. That is the only right reinstated ( I think). Although, I do recall a big bruhaha in recent news about a politician winning some race even though he was a convicted felon. So, I may be wrong on this, or it may be a state to state issue.
I am also not sure if the returning of the right to vote is only to non-violent felons or to all. Interesting question though.. will be looking it up.
Thanks