TSA Experiences

Andrea · 10-18-2013, 06:41 AM

Air marshal accused of taking photos up women's dresses at BNA

http://www.wsmv.com/story/23722109/air-marshal-accused-of-taking-photos-up-womens-dresses-at-bna

"A federal air marshal is accused of using his cell phone to take pictures underneath women's dresses as they boarded a flight at Nashville International Airport."

Andrea · 10-18-2013, 02:15 PM

TSA: Terrorist Threat to Air Safety is Minimal

http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/10/tsa-terrorist-threat-to-air-safety-is-minimal/

"While air travelers continue to be told that they must remove their shoes and go through a body scanner to combat the threat of terrorism in the skies, it turns out that the Transportation Safety Administration has gone on record stating that the threat and risk of terrorist attacks on aviation is very small."

Andrea · 10-23-2013, 06:38 AM

Security Check Now Starts Long Before You Fly

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/22/business/security-check-now-starts-long-before-you-fly.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hpw&

"The Transportation Security Administration is expanding its screening of passengers before they arrive at the airport by searching a wide array of government and private databases that can include records like car registrations and employment information."

"...For instance, an update about the T.S.A.’s Transportation Security Enforcement Record System, which contains information about travelers accused of “violations or potential violations” of security regulations, warns that the records may be shared with “a debt collection agency for the purpose of debt collection.”... "

"...A recent privacy notice about PreCheck notes that fingerprints submitted by people who apply for the program will be used by the F.B.I. to check its unsolved crimes database... "

(Bolding mine)

DapperButch · 10-23-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrea

TSA: Terrorist Threat to Air Safety is Minimal

http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/10/tsa-terrorist-threat-to-air-safety-is-minimal/

"While air travelers continue to be told that they must remove their shoes and go through a body scanner to combat the threat of terrorism in the skies, it turns out that the Transportation Safety Administration has gone on record stating that the threat and risk of terrorist attacks on aviation is very small."

Right, there has been no incidents, but how do we know that part of the reason for this is because those these strategies were put in place? Perhaps we would have seen more incidents if the changes didn't occur (people would have tried to bring things through). There is no way to know.

Andrea · 10-23-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DapperButch

Right, there has been no incidents, but how do we know that part of the reason for this is because those these strategies were put in place? Perhaps we would have seen more incidents if the changes didn't occur (people would have tried to bring things through). There is no way to know.

Can we agree to disagree about this?

DapperButch · 10-23-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrea

Can we agree to disagree about this?

Absolutely, Andrea!

As an aside, I do enjoy this thread very much and appreciate your postings.

Cin · 10-23-2013, 10:47 AM

Once the decision is made to buy into the idea of trading freedom for the illusion of safety it becomes impossible to convince someone it does not work. If nothing happens clearly the restrictions are working and the trade off is worth it and the person is safe. If something goes wrong then clearly what is needed is to restrict freedom further. It’s a slippery slope. It would be so much better to remove the reasons for terrorism in the first place, but that would require a restructuring of, well, of everything. Clearly it is easier and more comfortable to evoke righteous indignation and continue to take freedom away. And it does have a kind of sense about it. i mean if a country is going to continue pissing people off around the globe, people who generally have limited ways to bring attention to the abuses perpetrated against them, it only seems fair and logical that this country make an attempt to keep its citizens safe. Especially since not pissing people off around the world by perpetrating or supporting abuses against them is apparently not an option.

10-18-2013, 06:41 AM	#1
Andrea Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Mature Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Her/She Relationship Status: I heart Rene Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 3,755 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,427 Thanked 14,934 Times in 3,022 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	Not TSA but from the same parent agency..... Air marshal accused of taking photos up women's dresses at BNA http://www.wsmv.com/story/23722109/air-marshal-accused-of-taking-photos-up-womens-dresses-at-bna "A federal air marshal is accused of using his cell phone to take pictures underneath women's dresses as they boarded a flight at Nashville International Airport." __________________ I am very spoiled! What we think about and thank about, we bring about! Today I will treat my body with love and respect.

10-18-2013, 02:15 PM	#2
Andrea Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Mature Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Her/She Relationship Status: I heart Rene Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 3,755 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,427 Thanked 14,934 Times in 3,022 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	TSA: Terrorist Threat to Air Safety is Minimal http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/10/tsa-terrorist-threat-to-air-safety-is-minimal/ "While air travelers continue to be told that they must remove their shoes and go through a body scanner to combat the threat of terrorism in the skies, it turns out that the Transportation Safety Administration has gone on record stating that the threat and risk of terrorist attacks on aviation is very small." __________________ I am very spoiled! What we think about and thank about, we bring about! Today I will treat my body with love and respect.

10-23-2013, 06:38 AM	#3
Andrea Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Mature Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Her/She Relationship Status: I heart Rene Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 3,755 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,427 Thanked 14,934 Times in 3,022 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	Security Check Now Starts Long Before You Fly http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/22/business/security-check-now-starts-long-before-you-fly.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hpw& "The Transportation Security Administration is expanding its screening of passengers before they arrive at the airport by searching a wide array of government and private databases that can include records like car registrations and employment information." "...For instance, an update about the T.S.A.’s Transportation Security Enforcement Record System, which contains information about travelers accused of “violations or potential violations” of security regulations, warns that the records may be shared with “a debt collection agency for the purpose of debt collection.”... " "...A recent privacy notice about PreCheck notes that fingerprints submitted by people who apply for the program will be used by the F.B.I. to check its unsolved crimes database... " (Bolding mine) __________________ I am very spoiled! What we think about and thank about, we bring about! Today I will treat my body with love and respect.

10-23-2013, 10:47 AM	#7
Cin Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: Truly Madly Deeply Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: In My Head Posts: 2,814 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,333 Thanked 10,404 Times in 2,476 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	Once the decision is made to buy into the idea of trading freedom for the illusion of safety it becomes impossible to convince someone it does not work. If nothing happens clearly the restrictions are working and the trade off is worth it and the person is safe. If something goes wrong then clearly what is needed is to restrict freedom further. It’s a slippery slope. It would be so much better to remove the reasons for terrorism in the first place, but that would require a restructuring of, well, of everything. Clearly it is easier and more comfortable to evoke righteous indignation and continue to take freedom away. And it does have a kind of sense about it. i mean if a country is going to continue pissing people off around the globe, people who generally have limited ways to bring attention to the abuses perpetrated against them, it only seems fair and logical that this country make an attempt to keep its citizens safe. Especially since not pissing people off around the world by perpetrating or supporting abuses against them is apparently not an option.