Transgendered Furry Slave - Page 9

Andrea · 07-05-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kannon

The definition I found at urban dictionary:

Ok, an attempt at a balanced definition. I am NOT a furry but both sides hear me out before reaching for that thumbs down.

Furries are a relatively recent phenomenon which has been catapulted into near-mainstreamness almost solely because of the internet. It is obvious furries are very much victims of tarring the majority with the brush of an "unappealing" minority.

In the simplest sense furries are fans of anthropromorphic animals. That is, animals with human like features or tendencies (Fox McCloud, Sonic the Hedgehog... etc) pretty much all furries will create their own character or "fursona" for use as an art model and roleplaying, the designs of which vary wildly dependant on the artists skill and eye for contrasting colours (You get both amazing and appalling furry artists, and a wide skill range between these two) some furries can work wonders when it comes to creating a character on second life

The above paragraph is an apt description of your standard "furry", however there is a small but VERY vocal minority of the "yiff yiff" kind of division. Even though this sort of furry probably only takes up 1/10th of the fandom this is by FAR the type you hear about most often from anti-furry biased sources.

Furry porn is dangerously close to bestiality. Sorry to anyone who likes it, but it is... However the ones who like it seem to be in a minority, with the ones ...

Thank you for this definition. I have bolded a particular section in the hopes that the multiple people who made comments in reps to me about furries being about sex will read it and understand it isn't always (and based on this definition is rarely) about sex.

Please, please don't be the type of person who equates leather, cross dressing, same sex love, furries, etc with being only about sex. It may be only about sex for some, and may be only about sex for you, but it is not only about sex for all.

kannon · 07-05-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrea

Thank you for this definition. I have bolded a particular section in the hopes that the multiple people who made comments in reps to me about furries being about sex will read it and understand it isn't always (and based on this definition is rarely) about sex.

Please, please don't be the type of person who equates leather, cross dressing, same sex love, furries, etc with being only about sex. It may be only about sex for some, and may be only about sex for you, but it is not only about sex for all.

No, I definitely don't equate sex with any alternative lifestyle. I don't even think sexual fetishes are "bad." To each his own.

Sometimes I worry about making someone else uncomfortable because I'm trans-identified. My friends tell me it's not my job to make other people ok or comfortable with how I look as long as I treat them with respect and dignity. I'm sure people assume I'm a sexual deviant. They have a right to their opinion.

bright_arrow · 07-05-2011, 09:29 PM

I have a friend who is into the furry scene, and it was explained to me as such:

Furries dress up as an animal they want to be (he wants to be a fox, for example.)
Some people dress sexually, and for some it is a sexual fetish.
However, for the most part, it is about dressing up and socializing with others that are furry as well. The ones that make it sexual - that is of their own choosing - it was not intended to be sexual.

Furry does not equal sexual fetish.

As for the furry porn.. I myself am a fan of Sailor Moon - and have come across porn while searching for images. It's not originally intended as porn, but people will make what they will. So, not all furry illustrations are porn.

I can say I went through a phase in school wearing collars - and it wouldn't surprise me to see someone with a tail on - that doesn't mean slavery or furry. It wasn't a lifestyle - it was a way of dress, and in no way sexual.

My point is this: The manner of how the slave dresses is an embarrassment, yes, but it seems just that. It's not abusive. People may point, but people may point at a lot of things.

I'm not sure about what goes on in the house - I saw something about waiting hand and foot, referring to him as 'Master' - I view that separately from the manner of how the slave dresses. I have no comment on that, and without knowing it all, I still could have no comment - it's not my life.

I just wanted to try and clarify that furry does not mean sexual fetish for everyone else in the furry scene, so saying the collar&tail is purely sexual and therefore forcing a sexual nature on the child is not the case. As far as the other stuff - I have no comment.

I hope that made sense and I didn't reiterate an awful lot. My .02 cents is in and I now bow out.

Novelafemme · 07-05-2011, 09:48 PM

holy shit!

that being said...as the parent to a teenager and an almost 10 year old I can't imagine putting a lifestyle choice before their needs for any reason...especially during such a tender and delicate time in their developmental lives. but that's just me. and i truly believe that each family is completely unique and some are simply better equipped to handle such diversity. my girls and i talk about everything and i do mean e v e r y t h i n g, and i hope nothing comes between that universally open dialogue we have worked so hard for - but if it did, i sure as hell hope someone would call me on it.

raising kids is hard as hell and i can say from experience that it truly does take a tribe. i would sit down with this dad and have at it from a place of love and genuine concern and then let the chips fall where they may.

Gemme · 07-08-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tapu

Furry = fetish

*snip*

fetishes are inherently and exclusively sexual.

Am I getting anywhere??

Nope, because...with all due respect...fetishes are NOT inherently and exclusively sexual. That's why there are fetishes and then sexual fetishes.

I hate to be THAT person, but....

Fetish may refer to:

Fetishism, the attribution of religious or mystical qualities to inanimate objects
Sexual fetishism, sexual attraction to objects, body parts, or situations not conventionally viewed as being sexual in nature.
Fetish (album) (1999), by Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
Commodity fetishism, a Marxist concept of valuation in capitalist markets
Growth Fetish, the pursuit of economic growth in politics and economic theory as a universal cure for all society's problems
Fetish fashion, clothing and clothing fetishes
Zuni fetishes, small carvings from various stones, made by the Zuni Indians
Venturi Fétish, a car produced by Venturi Automobiles.
Fetish, a fictional superheroine in the Bomb Queen series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannon

http://youtu.be/oXcWGbRUnok

look for the hidden subliminal Phallic messages.

I'd never heard of gloving before. That was awesome!

Thanks.

tapu · 07-08-2011, 11:45 AM

Okay, if the kid got equally upset and embarrassed because the adult accompanying him carried and wore Zuni fetishes, sexualized or not, I would still handle the situation by starting with the kid and his feelings about it. I would not just make him "deal with it." He's a child. That's why children have parents--to help them deal with things. In case anyone wonders, I would approach it this same way if the issue were with lesbians. For example, if my kid didn't want both mommies going to the parent-teacher conference. Just that kind of parent, I guess. And I understand that there are other kinds.

Heart · 07-08-2011, 03:00 PM

When my kind was about 7, and I had recently come out, he asked me not to talk about my girlfriend in front of his friends. I respected his wishes and was more careful. My coming out did not mean forcing my kid out too. He got to have his own process in his own time. We talked about things of course, but I did not violate his personal and public space. About a year later, he came came home from school and told me about a diversity assembly where a male teacher talked about marrying his same-sex partner. I asked M. if his friends knew he had a lesbian mom. His reply: "Of course! I'm the kid that always stands up for you people!"

Heart

Sheridan · 11-01-2013, 07:51 AM

I have never heard of a Transgendered Furry Slave (I have heard of furries before). Wow, you learn new things every day. I think its different and I do not want to be a Transgendered Furry Slave myself (the whole slightly bestiality thing kinda creeps me out and the whole slave thing I am not into

). I think that is all I can say, I am to confused by the whole concept.

It is probably more embarrassing for the kid than harming him. But I am not an expert and I have no kids (so who knows).

Sweet Bliss · 11-01-2013, 08:17 AM

Wow, good thing I looked at the date line for this thread.

My "are you f***ing kidding me?" button pushed hard while reading some of the comments to the topic.

Rockinonahigh · 11-01-2013, 12:20 PM

When my son was ingrade school the kids called me macho momma,I had gone to the same school at that age so a lot of the parents were the kids I went to school with and he also had some of the same teachers I did.THere were fure parents who got in the school yard with the kids dureing feild day or after school events.Often dureing the summer there was a day camp the school had and or over night camp outs.They thought it wa cool I could set up a tent the start a fire with out matches for the wennie roast.My sexuality wasnt even an issue nor did I bring it up or in any way be anything but myself.I had been married then divorced,my son knew I had lady friends tho I didnt sit him down and have the talk.Fast forward this many years in the future whe he was a grown man that we had the discusion about things.His reply was that he knew about it a long time ago so not to worry cause no one ever brought it up.

07-08-2011, 11:45 AM	#166
tapu Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Understated butch. Preferred Pronoun?: I Relationship Status: Party of One Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 1,654 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,324 Thanked 3,114 Times in 1,103 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Okay, if the kid got equally upset and embarrassed because the adult accompanying him carried and wore Zuni fetishes, sexualized or not, I would still handle the situation by starting with the kid and his feelings about it. I would not just make him "deal with it." He's a child. That's why children have parents--to help them deal with things. In case anyone wonders, I would approach it this same way if the issue were with lesbians. For example, if my kid didn't want both mommies going to the parent-teacher conference. Just that kind of parent, I guess. And I understand that there are other kinds. __________________ Really? That's not funny to you?

11-01-2013, 07:51 AM	#168
Sheridan Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Transmasculine Preferred Pronoun?: Just call me Sheridan Relationship Status: Single and looking Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California Posts: 36 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 78 Thanked 99 Times in 27 Posts Rep Power: 1501902	Transgendered Furry Slave I have never heard of a Transgendered Furry Slave (I have heard of furries before). Wow, you learn new things every day. I think its different and I do not want to be a Transgendered Furry Slave myself (the whole slightly bestiality thing kinda creeps me out and the whole slave thing I am not into). I think that is all I can say, I am to confused by the whole concept. It is probably more embarrassing for the kid than harming him. But I am not an expert and I have no kids (so who knows).

07-05-2011, 09:29 PM	#163
bright_arrow ☆ the stars are aligned ☆ How Do You Identify?: one queer mama Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: married to my Boo Daddy <3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: nor cal Posts: 2,910 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,644 Thanked 9,363 Times in 2,296 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I have a friend who is into the furry scene, and it was explained to me as such: Furries dress up as an animal they want to be (he wants to be a fox, for example.) Some people dress sexually, and for some it is a sexual fetish. However, for the most part, it is about dressing up and socializing with others that are furry as well. The ones that make it sexual - that is of their own choosing - it was not intended to be sexual. Furry does not equal sexual fetish. As for the furry porn.. I myself am a fan of Sailor Moon - and have come across porn while searching for images. It's not originally intended as porn, but people will make what they will. So, not all furry illustrations are porn. I can say I went through a phase in school wearing collars - and it wouldn't surprise me to see someone with a tail on - that doesn't mean slavery or furry. It wasn't a lifestyle - it was a way of dress, and in no way sexual. My point is this: The manner of how the slave dresses is an embarrassment, yes, but it seems just that. It's not abusive. People may point, but people may point at a lot of things. I'm not sure about what goes on in the house - I saw something about waiting hand and foot, referring to him as 'Master' - I view that separately from the manner of how the slave dresses. I have no comment on that, and without knowing it all, I still could have no comment - it's not my life. I just wanted to try and clarify that furry does not mean sexual fetish for everyone else in the furry scene, so saying the collar&tail is purely sexual and therefore forcing a sexual nature on the child is not the case. As far as the other stuff - I have no comment. I hope that made sense and I didn't reiterate an awful lot. My .02 cents is in and I now bow out.

07-05-2011, 09:48 PM	#164
Novelafemme Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: ........ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ........ Posts: 2,402 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,981 Thanked 8,925 Times in 1,834 Posts Rep Power: 0	holy shit! that being said...as the parent to a teenager and an almost 10 year old I can't imagine putting a lifestyle choice before their needs for any reason...especially during such a tender and delicate time in their developmental lives. but that's just me. and i truly believe that each family is completely unique and some are simply better equipped to handle such diversity. my girls and i talk about everything and i do mean e v e r y t h i n g, and i hope nothing comes between that universally open dialogue we have worked so hard for - but if it did, i sure as hell hope someone would call me on it. raising kids is hard as hell and i can say from experience that it truly does take a tribe. i would sit down with this dad and have at it from a place of love and genuine concern and then let the chips fall where they may.

07-08-2011, 03:00 PM	#167
Heart Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Relationship Status: rainbows! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 466 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 303 Thanked 2,522 Times in 409 Posts Rep Power: 12032610	When my kind was about 7, and I had recently come out, he asked me not to talk about my girlfriend in front of his friends. I respected his wishes and was more careful. My coming out did not mean forcing my kid out too. He got to have his own process in his own time. We talked about things of course, but I did not violate his personal and public space. About a year later, he came came home from school and told me about a diversity assembly where a male teacher talked about marrying his same-sex partner. I asked M. if his friends knew he had a lesbian mom. His reply: "Of course! I'm the kid that always stands up for you people!" Heart

11-01-2013, 08:17 AM	#169
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11-01-2013, 12:20 PM	#170
Rockinonahigh Senior Member How Do You Identify?: stone butch Preferred Pronoun?: makes no diffrence,I know who I am. Relationship Status: single,maybe looking if the right person comes along. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 4,907 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,682 Thanked 14,933 Times in 3,938 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	When my son was ingrade school the kids called me macho momma,I had gone to the same school at that age so a lot of the parents were the kids I went to school with and he also had some of the same teachers I did.THere were fure parents who got in the school yard with the kids dureing feild day or after school events.Often dureing the summer there was a day camp the school had and or over night camp outs.They thought it wa cool I could set up a tent the start a fire with out matches for the wennie roast.My sexuality wasnt even an issue nor did I bring it up or in any way be anything but myself.I had been married then divorced,my son knew I had lady friends tho I didnt sit him down and have the talk.Fast forward this many years in the future whe he was a grown man that we had the discusion about things.His reply was that he knew about it a long time ago so not to worry cause no one ever brought it up.