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Old 04-15-2010, 06:45 PM   #1
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very good hopefully this wakes up the rest of the country since everyone knows that if you barr a loved one from seeing thier partner you couldnt be more cruel and evil....
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I see this as a good sign as to where the man stands in regards to our rights. Let's hope I'm not counting my proverbial chickens before they get to the supreme court.
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:07 PM   #3
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Obama extends hospital visitation rights to same-sex partners of gays


By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 16, 2010

President Obama mandated Thursday that hospitals extend visitation rights to the partners of gay men and lesbians and allow same-sex couples to share medical power of attorney, perhaps the most significant step so far in his efforts to expand the rights of gay Americans.

The president directed the Department of Health and Human Services to prohibit discrimination in hospital visitation in a memo that was e-mailed to reporters Thursday night while he was at a fundraiser in Miami.

Administration officials and gay activists, who have been quietly working together on the issue, said the new rule will affect any hospital that receives Medicare or Medicaid funding, a move that covers the vast majority of the nation's health-care institutions.

It is currently common policy in many hospitals that only those related by blood or marriage be allowed to visit patients.

"Discrimination touches every facet of the lives of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, including at times of crisis and illness, when we need our loved ones with us more than ever," Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, said in praising the decision.

Obama's actions are the latest attempt by his administration to advance the agenda of a constituency that strongly supported his presidential campaign.

In his first 15 months in office, he has hailed the passage of hate crime legislation and held the first Gay Pride Day celebration at the White House. Last month, Obama's top military and defense officials testified before Congress in favor of repealing of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy for gays in the armed forces.
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But the moves have been too slow for some seeking equal rights for gays, who have urged the president to be more vocal and active in championing their causes. John Aravosis, a prominent gay blogger, wrote last October that Obama's "track record on keeping his gay promises has been fairly abominable."

Other gay rights activists have defended the administration for doing what it can, while at the same time pushing Congress to act on broader issues such as passage of an employment non-discrimination act and an end to the ban on gays serving openly in the military.

"We see this as part of our ongoing effort to encourage the administration to take action where it has the authority to act," said David Smith, a Human Rights Campaign spokesman. "We've been working and pressing the administration on our legislative agenda. That work continues."

Gay activists have argued for years that recognizing same-sex marriage would ease the stress associated with not being able to visit their hospitalized partners.

But opponents of same-sex marriage have called the visitation issue a red herring, arguing that advocates want to provide special rights for gays that other Americans do not have.

Obama's memo to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, made public late Thursday night, orders new rules that would ensure that hospitals "respect the rights of patients to designate visitors."

Obama said hospitals should not be able to deny visitation privileges on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.

"Every day, all across America, patients are denied the kindnesses and caring of a loved one at their sides whether in a sudden medical emergency or a prolonged hospital stay," Obama wrote in the memo.

Affected, he said, are "gay and lesbian Americans who are often barred from the bedsides of the partners with whom they may have spent decades of their lives -- unable to be there for the person they love, and unable to act as a legal surrogate if their partner is incapacitated."

The new rules do not apply only to gays. They also affect widows and widowers who have found themselves unable to receive visits from a friend or companion. And it would allow members of some religious orders to designate someone other than a family member to make medical decisions.

But it is clear that the document is aimed squarely at gays. A number of areas remain in which federal law requires proof of marriage, including receiving Social Security benefits and in taxes.

"The General Accounting Office has identified 1,138 instances in federal law where marriage is important," said one gay rights activist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the White House had not formally announced the directive. "We've knocked off one of them."
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This is so wonderful!!!!
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Old 04-15-2010, 09:18 PM   #5
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I wonder if they'll cave to the damn churches and allow an exception for faith-based hospitals that's surely going to be demanded. That'll screw over tons of folks. I don't know about the rest of the county but here in California the catholics own a bucket load of hospitals, many in rural areas where there's no alternative.
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Old 04-15-2010, 09:23 PM   #6
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This is wonderful news! Not long ago we were discussing the need to get all the ironclad legal wrangling done to ensure that we are both protected within our relationship. We will still likely complete a medical power of attorney, but at least there won't be all the hassle at the hospital should one of us find ourselves there. Progress is progress, no matter how small!

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You know there are still some nice people in this world ive never been denied to see my partner when they were sick or ill i was always helped right to them be cause they are afraid of this red head laffsi think they would hate to hear me make a scene
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I wonder if they'll cave to the damn churches and allow an exception for faith-based hospitals that's surely going to be demanded. That'll screw over tons of folks. I don't know about the rest of the county but here in California the catholics own a bucket load of hospitals, many in rural areas where there's no alternative.
Oh, I bet this comes up immediately!! Without a doubt! Wonder what Huckabee will be spouting??!! My first guess as someone that will be all over this Friday!! We might want to marryy horses, you know... and view children as puppies...

I'm glad to see this happen, but, I'm reeling about the likes of Larry King getting his 8th divorce as a straight man (appears he's been bonking his sister-in-law). Now, how is it that same-sex marriage negatively affects the sanctity of heterosexual marriage?

Also, it is taking a presidential order (or is it a directive) to secure human kindness in the face of illness. Guess I do feel like this is somewhat of a political bone being thrown our way. Yet, it does feel good when thinking about those of us that are in this situation at this very moment.

Maybe just grouchy today….
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politcal directive or not if my wife was in the hospital and i was not allowed to see here it would take a helluva lot of stopping power to keep me away.....i would go apechit on whoever was stopping me and probably end up in the hospital myself.....that is one situation where i would act before i thought and consequences be damned..then i would proceed to every media outlet or whoever would listen and whatever lawyer would i could talk to.....simply i would be seeing red
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Oh, I bet this comes up immediately!! Without a doubt! Wonder what Huckabee will be spouting??!! My first guess as someone that will be all over this Friday!! We might want to marryy horses, you know... and view children as puppies...

I'm glad to see this happen, but, I'm reeling about the likes of Larry King getting his 8th divorce as a straight man (appears he's been bonking his sister-in-law). Now, how is it that same-sex marriage negatively affects the sanctity of heterosexual marriage?

Also, it is taking a presidential order (or is it a directive) to secure human kindness in the face of illness. Guess I do feel like this is somewhat of a political bone being thrown our way. Yet, it does feel good when thinking about those of us that are in this situation at this very moment.

Maybe just grouchy today….

Whatever the motivations it makes a huge difference. I'm just going to take this on face value. Me and Melissa have all the paperwork, wills, directives, you name it but it often doesn't make a darn difference. Now we both feel a lot more secure. Its one less thing to worry about.

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I wonder if they'll cave to the damn churches and allow an exception for faith-based hospitals that's surely going to be demanded. That'll screw over tons of folks. I don't know about the rest of the county but here in California the catholics own a bucket load of hospitals, many in rural areas where there's no alternative.
Based on the intial story it doesn't sound like it. The only way the Catholic hospitals could get around it is to refuse medicare and Medicaid. Most hospitals can't do this because they need the money.

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