In Celebration of Butch Femininity

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Words have an original meaning and then may have evolved into a broader
or narrower meaning. We, as humans, recognize that things have changed
over the course of time. I think as caring, thinking, compassionate people,
it would serve all of us well to embrace the ever-changing meaning of words in
our own community.

While I appreciate everyone's input into any conversation, I have to say
the intent of some seems more combative than constructive.

To quote my dad, "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one"

That being said....I'm enjoying this discussion even though it has gone
wildly off-course.

If someone feels the need to judge me.....
I hope it is for my intent instead of poor word choice.

[C0LLETTE]

Isn't it possible to have this conversation without imputing other peoples' "intent", particularly a negative intent? A benefit of doubt might prove more

[BullDog]

Threads getting off topic is normal here, but is anyone else wondering why there aren't more butches in here talking about aspects of femininity? To me that is what is most striking.

[Nat]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Threads getting off topic is normal here, but is anyone else wondering why there aren't more butches in here talking about aspects of femininity? To me that is what is most striking.

Is there perhaps a level of exposure here that doesn't seem worth the risk?

[BullDog]

Nat, I don't think that there is one single answer, but I tend to think it is more that many butches fall through the cracks and don't feel they fit in too well in BF online communities (mostly due to whole butch scale thing) than they are sitting here reading and wanting to post and are afraid to. But, no one answer fits all.

[Nat]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Nat, I don't think that there is one single answer, but I tend to think it is more that many butches fall through the cracks and don't feel they fit in too well in BF online communities (mostly due to whole butch scale thing) than they are sitting here reading and wanting to post and are afraid to. But, no one answer fits all.

If so, I think that's unfortunate. The community suffers and so do individuals who might feel excluded unnecessarily.

[BullDog]

Yes, I agree Nat. I have known butches personally who did not feel they fit in. Then again, some of them also are not real internet types. They might just spend a few minutes online or maybe play arcade games, then they are off to spend time with family and such.


I do hope people who are here feel comfortable talking about various aspects of their gender. I do love to hear about it.

[C0LLETTE]

I tried to delete my post but wasn't quick enough. I just don't want to go there. Apologies to all.

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Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

Isn't it possible to have this conversation without imputing other peoples' "intent"?

I was merely stating the way the situation seems to me.

Also, I am fairly sure that is acceptable language to use.

If it isn't, I'm sure someone will let me know if I have violated TOS.

[C0LLETTE]

I suspect that there is a high probability that the answer to my question is "yes".
However I'm ok with the response.

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There are as many ways to express ideas as there are people expressing them.

[Rolo]

My ex identified as butch. She wore mascara and eyeliner...more than I did. This was normal to her and she felt very attractive when she did...did some people have a problem with... I guess so, but that just due to there ideals of what butch looks like or how they like it to look. It's not common but you do what makes you feel good and she could have cared less what anyone felt or thought. No clue if she had an inner struggle with it but I doubt it.

Be you, we don't have to be the same.