Neurodiversity

violaine · 04-23-2010, 01:54 PM

“Contrary to the expectations associated with the label of ‘genius’,” the study noted, “they tended to hold modest goals for themselves …”

To Allan Snyder, however, a genius is someone who changes the way humanity thinks, a path that requires not just a high IQ but the ability to withstand adversity and take on conventional wisdom. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, he points out, were college dropouts who changed the world by creating the personal computer revolution.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111114147837

Andrew, Jr. · 04-23-2010, 02:02 PM

Belle,

I think if others can understand and be patient with those who have neuro. issues, then they will "see" a whole new perspective. Most just don't want to "waste their time". I know - I have had it happen to me more times than I can count on 1 hand.

Cyclopea · 04-24-2010, 02:29 AM

http://www.timothyhorrigan.com/docum...nswer-key.html

Andrew, Jr. · 04-24-2010, 04:59 AM

Cyclopea,

I am not understanding who this Timothy Horrigan is. Is this a book or a writer? Can you please shed some light on this person or book for me?

Thanks,
Andrew

JazzGirl · 04-24-2010, 07:33 AM

Hi. I, too, am an AT. I am an Aspie who has epilepsy and also Tourette Syndrome. Argh, this is hard to do. My epilepsy is mostly under control. My Tourette's is not. I have a very high IQ. No, I don't scream, yell, swear. I do have vocal and physical tics though. I make unusual sounds I cannot replicate purposely. I look as if I am dancing seated in a chair sometimes and it is totally beyond my control. I try desperately to control all of my tics but when I do they are made far worse than if I had not done so.

I have found, I still have little recognition of facial expressions and do not always recognize, correctly, the emotions of others, either facially and sometimes vocally unless it is a very basic emotional reaction. I am, however, empathic and do have compassion. As I get older, I find I am much more able to "appear normal" without trying so hard. I have come to the place in my life where I really don't give a rat's a** whether others find me NT or not.

I do hear from others, I am open, refreshingly honest, without guise or guile, an innocent, childlike, the glass is half full girl and I would wonder, many years ago, WHY people said those things. I asked. The answers were varied but most were " because you are so wonderfully different. I love your perspectives and the fact that you cannot play mind games. Or Wow, you are able to look at yourself from your own perspective, the perspective of the other person involved and also as if you were a third individual who was simply looking on.

I do not understand vague references. If a word has more than one meaning, I become confused in conversation (so I ask or tell people this.), If a question can have more than one answer I get the RCA dog look. Geez, Not easily confused am I? My teenaged son taught me sarcasm, but only the self deprecating type. I still find 99% of sarcasm, dry humor, any kind of subtley goes right over my head. My facial expressions or even tone of voice do not match at times to my inner emotions. I cannot lie. I spit out the truth even if it means I am in trouble or perceive I could be in trouble IF I perceive it , lol.
* I would suck as a criminal * lol.

I, like others, perseverate on things that hold my interest, but in a much less intense manner than when younger. I now recognize conversational cues much more often and quickly. Again, thanks to my teenaged son. My poor son. But he tells me NO Mom, your son with an advantage cuz I got you as a Mom. I'm rambling. I'll be back later. Time to hide out. I'm feeling overly exposed but needed to be honest.

I read this thread and wanted to introduce myself.
Jazzie

Liam · 04-24-2010, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzGirl

I read this thread and wanted to introduce myself.
Jazzie

Welcome to the thread, Jazzie, nice to meet you.

Andrew, Jr. · 04-24-2010, 12:37 PM

Hi and Welcome Jazzie. Glad you are here with us!

Cyclopea · 04-24-2010, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclopea

http://www.timothyhorrigan.com/docum...nswer-key.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Cyclopea,

I am not understanding who this Timothy Horrigan is. Is this a book or a writer? Can you please shed some light on this person or book for me?

Thanks,
Andrew

The link is to the answer key to the Unicru personality test which is now utilized by most large employers to screen out/eliminate autistic and aspergers job applicants. I posted it as a helpful tool for anyone who wants to avoid being discriminated against during the job application process.

Here's another good related link: http://www.ehow.com/how_4446746_pass...lity-test.html
But the one I posted above gives the actual answers.

violaine · 04-25-2010, 12:23 AM

has anyone read this book, please?
- David Eastham, "Understand: Fifty Memowriter Poems"

the first link contains tremendous spectrum resources, and the second one involves a bit of fun:

http://autistscorner.blogspot.com/20...liography.html

http://www.oneplusyou.com/bb/synesthesia

mine was wired % 87 for creativity synesthesia

and came from this site:

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/syne.html

JazzGirl · 04-25-2010, 10:53 AM

Thank you for the welcome everyone.

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JazzGirl Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Feminine pronouns Relationship Status: Not looking Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: . Posts: 184 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,447 Thanked 594 Times in 153 Posts Rep Power: 8712111	Hi. I, too, am an AT. I am an Aspie who has epilepsy and also Tourette Syndrome. Argh, this is hard to do. My epilepsy is mostly under control. My Tourette's is not. I have a very high IQ. No, I don't scream, yell, swear. I do have vocal and physical tics though. I make unusual sounds I cannot replicate purposely. I look as if I am dancing seated in a chair sometimes and it is totally beyond my control. I try desperately to control all of my tics but when I do they are made far worse than if I had not done so. I have found, I still have little recognition of facial expressions and do not always recognize, correctly, the emotions of others, either facially and sometimes vocally unless it is a very basic emotional reaction. I am, however, empathic and do have compassion. As I get older, I find I am much more able to "appear normal" without trying so hard. I have come to the place in my life where I really don't give a rat's a** whether others find me NT or not. I do hear from others, I am open, refreshingly honest, without guise or guile, an innocent, childlike, the glass is half full girl and I would wonder, many years ago, WHY people said those things. I asked. The answers were varied but most were " because you are so wonderfully different. I love your perspectives and the fact that you cannot play mind games. Or Wow, you are able to look at yourself from your own perspective, the perspective of the other person involved and also as if you were a third individual who was simply looking on. I do not understand vague references. If a word has more than one meaning, I become confused in conversation (so I ask or tell people this.), If a question can have more than one answer I get the RCA dog look. Geez, Not easily confused am I? My teenaged son taught me sarcasm, but only the self deprecating type. I still find 99% of sarcasm, dry humor, any kind of subtley goes right over my head. My facial expressions or even tone of voice do not match at times to my inner emotions. I cannot lie. I spit out the truth even if it means I am in trouble or perceive I could be in trouble IF I perceive it , lol. * I would suck as a criminal * lol. I, like others, perseverate on things that hold my interest, but in a much less intense manner than when younger. I now recognize conversational cues much more often and quickly. Again, thanks to my teenaged son. My poor son. But he tells me NO Mom, your son with an advantage cuz I got you as a Mom. I'm rambling. I'll be back later. Time to hide out. I'm feeling overly exposed but needed to be honest. I read this thread and wanted to introduce myself. Jazzie

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