It's Time to Boycott Arizona

suebee · 04-23-2010, 04:40 PM

I heard on the radio that police will receive training to prevent racial profiling. Uh.....yeah - right. As if THAT'S worked so well before.

The_Lady_Snow · 04-23-2010, 04:50 PM

This is a sad thing indeed, to be brown, pulled over, with a law backing up the cops..

I would be terrified..

It's sickening

Bella~Vita · 04-23-2010, 05:17 PM

This is just wrong .. it's disgraceful ..

Nat · 04-23-2010, 05:24 PM

this is really upsetting.

I hope this gets stricken down somehow. How can 70% of Arizonans be okay with that?

Also, according to wikipedia, "non-Hispanic whites" make up only 59% of the population. I think that poll is bs.

ps. I just read above - thanks Msdemeanor for clarifying more about the poll. Kinda went off half-cocked.

Toughy · 04-23-2010, 08:08 PM

it'll be interesting when the po-po pull over one of those million dollar brown baseball players during spring training....and he doesn't have his green card and only has a driver's license from another state......that'll be way fun.....

there is hope....many police officers are against this bill including former Mesa AZ police chief and now current SF police chief http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/152962

and also:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ce-impact.html
The Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police opposes SB 1070 because the group says the law would hobble law enforcement's ability to "fulfill their many responsibilities in a timely manner." But it said its chiefs will enforce the measure if it becomes law.

Besides immigration enforcement is a federal responsibility not a state one........

so here is a summary of the bill:
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument....passed.doc.htm

suebee · 04-24-2010, 06:46 AM

Rachel Maddow with her usual wit on the subject:

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4nQvLDbjyU"]YouTube- WANSM-Latest Arizona's Immigration Law, April 23, 2010[/nomedia]

UofMfan · 04-24-2010, 08:32 AM

I am wondering how much is going to cost the "Good Citizens" of Arizona to defend this Bill in the Courts.

Prejudice...Priceless!!

Billy · 04-24-2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

This is a sad thing indeed, to be brown, pulled over, with a law backing up the cops..

I would be terrified..

It's sickening

Sometimes I wonder and I try not to do it often , Where do these people come from and how do they get in the position of power that they are in ....

apretty · 04-24-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy

Sometimes I wonder and I try not to do it often , Where do these people come from and how do they get in the position of power that they are in ....

she's only in office because president obama appointed our then-governor, napolitano (a democrat and female, twice elected) as secretary of homeland security. that gave the then-secretary of state jan brewer the office. so basically, bad luck.

wolfwalker · 04-28-2010, 10:45 AM

Has anyone considered what happens to you if you cross the border in some other countries illegally?

N. Korea jailed 2 hikers and journalists and it took the US govt. to get them back. china? russia? Iran? bet you are never heard from again.

there is not a damn thing wrong with wanting people residing in the country to be known about. ever consider who else is crossing the borders?

Only the USA does little about the illegal problem. I will give you a prime example of why people should be legal. get into a car accident with an illegal and see how quick they disappear and you will be left holding the bag of all the expense.

yes, we should work on a plan to get people legal but until that occurs. we should not give illegals the keys to the country.

wolf

The_Lady_Snow · 04-28-2010, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

Has anyone considered what happens to you if you cross the border in some other countries illegally?

N. Korea jailed 2 hikers and journalists and it took the US govt. to get them back. china? russia? Iran? bet you are never heard from again.

there is not a damn thing wrong with wanting people residing in the country to be known about. ever consider who else is crossing the borders?

Only the USA does little about the illegal problem. I will give you a prime example of why people should be legal. get into a car accident with an illegal and see how quick they disappear and you will be left holding the bag of all the expense.

yes, we should work on a plan to get people legal but until that occurs. we should not give illegals the keys to the country.

wolf

I have been in 3 car accidents..

None caused by people from other countries..

None had insurance...

So is it safe to say, that this whole hit and run thing is not just an *illegal immigrant* issue, how about it's an ass clown issue?

wolfwalker · 04-28-2010, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I have been in 3 car accidents..

None caused by people from other countries..

None had insurance...

So is it safe to say, that this whole hit and run thing is not just an *illegal immigrant* issue, how about it's an ass clown issue?

I can also bet you at least knew the name of the person who hit you and their address.

wolf

Apocalipstic · 04-28-2010, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

Has anyone considered what happens to you if you cross the border in some other countries illegally?

N. Korea jailed 2 hikers and journalists and it took the US govt. to get them back. china? russia? Iran? bet you are never heard from again.

there is not a damn thing wrong with wanting people residing in the country to be known about. ever consider who else is crossing the borders?

Only the USA does little about the illegal problem. I will give you a prime example of why people should be legal. get into a car accident with an illegal and see how quick they disappear and you will be left holding the bag of all the expense.

yes, we should work on a plan to get people legal but until that occurs. we should not give illegals the keys to the country.

wolf

Great, so you think this should be handled like North Korea does? Really? They need to be our example?

Apocalipstic · 04-28-2010, 10:58 AM

Also, a person can't be illegal. They are undocumented, not illegal.

We are speaking of people.

UofMfan · 04-28-2010, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

Has anyone considered what happens to you if you cross the border in some other countries illegally?

N. Korea jailed 2 hikers and journalists and it took the US govt. to get them back. china? russia? Iran? bet you are never heard from again.

there is not a damn thing wrong with wanting people residing in the country to be known about. ever consider who else is crossing the borders?

Only the USA does little about the illegal problem. I will give you a prime example of why people should be legal. get into a car accident with an illegal and see how quick they disappear and you will be left holding the bag of all the expense.

yes, we should work on a plan to get people legal but until that occurs. we should not give illegals the keys to the country.

wolf

Let me ask you a question, I am being really sincere here, did you not notice which countries you were using as an example?

Another question, do you truly want the US to be like those countries?

Haven't we been told time and time again how those countries are evil and how Human Rights, what little is there, are constantly being violated there?

And lastly, I have been in a few accidents with US citizens and some have taken off too, and it was their fault. Damn US citizens!

DeanRobert · 04-28-2010, 12:29 PM

UofMfan, I was simply addressing and answering the questions that Apretty had asked me and in return asked her where were the vioces and protests when the orgininal statutes went into law several years ago. SB1070 is simply adding to these already existing laws. It was not met for all of you to answer a second time. {shaking my head} Keeping in mind none of you answerd that question.

I have heard a lot of horror stories over the years. I do not doubt that they happened or do still happen to this day It seems to me that since I am simply trying to voice my opinion here.
If I were to start a thread for those whom are in favor of this bill, you all would be posting your opinions there too. There are two sides to every thing that happens and I had not seen anyone trying to voice the other side.

I will state this again, as many of you just arn't comprehending what I had said. I believe this bill will lead to racial profiling.!

apretty: You asked me to walk you through this thought process. I am not speaking of oppression here. I agree that oppression exists to this very day.
You are very loudly voicing your opinions here and have made it very clear that you are of Hispanic descent. You brought into this the term “brown skinned people” not me. I am simply asking you, where were you or the Hispanic population voices and protests when the original parts of this bill were signed into law several years ago.
Maybe if there had been the protests and loud voices then we would not be here today as the state divided that we are.

I was born in Flagstaff and raised here. So for a little more than 40 years this has been my home. I have seen many changes in the valley and the state. Some for the good and some for the bad.
I sit here willing to listening to both sides of this debate I have not made a decision as to exactly which side I will take, and am trying to keep an open mind.

I was put on notice by several of my friends that come into this site and others that if I posted my thoughts and feelingshere I would be attacked and that is just what has happened.

To those of you that will participate in the boycotts think about this:

Don't buy that new car you want, why??? All of the airbags in that new car are manufactured right here in Arizona.

If you are in law enforcement or carry a tazer, don't use it, its manufactured right here in Arizona.

Thinking of buying a new computer, make sure it doesn't have an INTEL processor, yes they to are manufactured here.

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wolfwalker Member How Do You Identify?: human Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: planet earth Posts: 129 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 181 Thanked 180 Times in 71 Posts Rep Power: 25	Has anyone considered what happens to you if you cross the border in some other countries illegally? N. Korea jailed 2 hikers and journalists and it took the US govt. to get them back. china? russia? Iran? bet you are never heard from again. there is not a damn thing wrong with wanting people residing in the country to be known about. ever consider who else is crossing the borders? Only the USA does little about the illegal problem. I will give you a prime example of why people should be legal. get into a car accident with an illegal and see how quick they disappear and you will be left holding the bag of all the expense. yes, we should work on a plan to get people legal but until that occurs. we should not give illegals the keys to the country. wolf

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DeanRobert Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch,top,daddy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Az Posts: 5 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	UofMfan, I was simply addressing and answering the questions that Apretty had asked me and in return asked her where were the vioces and protests when the orgininal statutes went into law several years ago. SB1070 is simply adding to these already existing laws. It was not met for all of you to answer a second time. {shaking my head} Keeping in mind none of you answerd that question. I have heard a lot of horror stories over the years. I do not doubt that they happened or do still happen to this day It seems to me that since I am simply trying to voice my opinion here. If I were to start a thread for those whom are in favor of this bill, you all would be posting your opinions there too. There are two sides to every thing that happens and I had not seen anyone trying to voice the other side. I will state this again, as many of you just arn't comprehending what I had said. I believe this bill will lead to racial profiling.! apretty: You asked me to walk you through this thought process. I am not speaking of oppression here. I agree that oppression exists to this very day. You are very loudly voicing your opinions here and have made it very clear that you are of Hispanic descent. You brought into this the term “brown skinned people” not me. I am simply asking you, where were you or the Hispanic population voices and protests when the original parts of this bill were signed into law several years ago. Maybe if there had been the protests and loud voices then we would not be here today as the state divided that we are. I was born in Flagstaff and raised here. So for a little more than 40 years this has been my home. I have seen many changes in the valley and the state. Some for the good and some for the bad. I sit here willing to listening to both sides of this debate I have not made a decision as to exactly which side I will take, and am trying to keep an open mind. I was put on notice by several of my friends that come into this site and others that if I posted my thoughts and feelingshere I would be attacked and that is just what has happened. To those of you that will participate in the boycotts think about this: Don't buy that new car you want, why??? All of the airbags in that new car are manufactured right here in Arizona. If you are in law enforcement or carry a tazer, don't use it, its manufactured right here in Arizona. Thinking of buying a new computer, make sure it doesn't have an INTEL processor, yes they to are manufactured here.