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Old 04-24-2010, 10:06 AM   #1
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our friendship ended months ago, she unfriended me on facebook. *real sad face* for questioning her on her lack of college degree, on declaring an official 'day of prayer' to fix the economy, and because i dared ask if the citizens pay for her health care (she wants to sue the feds to exempt az from having health care reform because she's crying poor...).

we're no longer bffs, can't imagine why.



*she also (well, to be fair i'm sure it's her assistant) erases opposing comments on her FB and unfriends anyone that speak the truth.

IRONY: the night before she signed the racist bill she spoke at a Chicana function. (no one was aware of this bill when she was asked to speak, but come on! does she look like someone you'd ask to speak at your Chicana function?)

lovingly, my friends refer to her as the 'crypt keeper'.
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our friendship ended months ago, she unfriended me on facebook. *real sad face* for questioning her on her lack of college degree, on declaring an official 'day of prayer' to fix the economy, and because i dared ask if the citizens pay for her health care (she wants to sue the feds to exempt az from having health care reform because she's crying poor...).

we're no longer bffs, can't imagine why.



*she also (well, to be fair i'm sure it's her assistant) erases opposing comments on her FB and unfriends anyone that speak the truth.

IRONY: the night before she signed the racist bill she spoke at a Chicana function. (no one was aware of this bill when she was asked to speak, but come on! does she look like someone you'd ask to speak at your Chicana function?)

lovingly, my friends refer to her as the 'crypt keeper'.
Oddly enough, apretty's facebook has never been the same since the Jan Brewer incident. For a few days afterwards she couldn't post at all, it was completely frozen. It finally was unfrozen but she was unable to fb chat. She has been unable to regain the use of her fb chat even though she has put in numerous emails to fb about it. Conspiracy theory.
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I'm troubled here by what I consider to be both ageist and anti-feminist comments above. As difficult as it is for women of any age to find themselves in positions of power, especially in government, but particularly the battle that women of a certain age face, I see these comments as both unnecessary and hypocritical. If Jan Brewer can be accused of racism, how is it effective to battle her with ageism?

Further, I do not see the point in the following statement:



What must someone look like in order that they be welcome to speak at a Chicana function?

*I* personally feel she looks like something worse than just a crypt keeper, I could care less of the ol douche was 45 or 89 she just put a hunt sign on my people..

As for a Chicana function..

How about someone from my latino community, who gives a damn and isn't about placing a target on my forehead, not some white woman giving free tickets to racial profiling.

But that is just me, ms pretty may have a different view...

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My mom called this woman a *cunt* I have NEVER heard her use this word.. So ms pretty was actually kind to what alot of latinos and chicanos are calling her...

Just sayin'
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*I* personally feel she looks like something worse than just a crypt keeper, I could care less of the ol douche was 45 or 89 she just put a hunt sign on my people..

As for a Chicana function..

How about someone from my latino community, who gives a damn and isn't about placing a target on my forehead, not some white woman giving free tickets to racial profiling.

But that is just me, ms pretty may have a different view...

P.S.

My mom called this woman a *cunt* I have NEVER heard her use this word.. So ms pretty was actually kind to what alot of latinos and chicanos are calling her...

Just sayin'
To me, this is an example of how women betray women and personalize what is topical, ideological, or purely political in order to punish. Yes, the personal is political, but to reverse this axiom, to make personal what is someone else's politic, is unreasonable.

Brewer's politics are disturbing and deeply unjust. But to utilize ageism and anti-feminism against her is to only be guilty of the very principles that she upholds.

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See this is where folx think differently, when I see ms pretty calling that woman a crypt keeper her age not once sprang to mind..

You ever see that fucker, all mean and cackly and evil, that is how it connected with me.

So yeah anyways..

As for betrayal..

*laughs* that bitch betrayed my people first, you think I care if she is woman or not, you think she gives a shit about all the brown women?

No

wanna know how I know

She signed it with a smile and a nod to the camera with NO THOUGHT to her fellow sisters

women of this world, country, her state.

So I don't feel so not PC
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In her press conference, her last words hit me as asinine, it was almost like "come back next week to see what other fuckery I have for you!"

Insane, inane, asinine, racist, and wholly fucked up!
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Personally the ageist and anti-feminist comments when right over my head, although I felt a bit of a breeze up there. I kind of thought someone would comment on her looks. If a man in her position had a weathered face, nobody would bat an eye. So, yeah - it's not very cool.

BUT - This woman is the poster child for white privilege. Her arguments, comments as to how this new law will be applied withOUT profiling make absolutely no sense. That didn't deter her from using them. She seems so convinced that she is right that logic has nothing to do with it. She views the world from her position of power and her only concern is to protect that power. To hell with the lives this could disrupt, scar - even destroy.

I'd love to see her walk down the street in a predominantly latino neighbourhood and see if her well-practiced smile helps explain away her racist policy.
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See this is where folx think differently, when I see ms pretty calling that woman a crypt keeper her age not once sprang to mind..

You ever see that fucker, all mean and cackly and evil, that is how it connected with me.

So yeah anyways..

As for betrayal..

*laughs* that bitch betrayed my people first, you think I care if she is woman or not, you think she gives a shit about all the brown women?

No

wanna know how I know

She signed it with a smile and a nod to the camera with NO THOUGHT to her fellow sisters

women of this world, country, her state.

So I don't feel so not PC
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I think this lady is the pinnacle of *women betraying women*, actually *humans betraying humans*. To suggest that you are somehow a racist because of your comments is kind of funny. Like an impossible math equation.

I agree with your mother btw.
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lovingly, my friends refer to her as the 'crypt keeper'.

I'm troubled here by what I consider to be both ageist and anti-feminist comments above. As difficult as it is for women of any age to find themselves in positions of power, especially in government, but particularly the battle that women of a certain age face, I see these comments as both unnecessary and hypocritical. If Jan Brewer can be accused of racism, how is it effective to battle her with ageism?

Further, I do not see the point in the following statement:

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...does she look like someone you'd ask to speak at your Chicana function?...
What must someone look like in order that they be welcome to speak at a Chicana function?
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I'm troubled here by what I consider to be both ageist and anti-feminist comments above. As difficult as it is for women of any age to find themselves in positions of power, especially in government, but particularly the battle that women of a certain age face, I see these comments as both unnecessary and hypocritical. If Jan Brewer can be accused of racism, how is it effective to battle her with ageism?

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What must someone look like in order that they be welcome to speak at a Chicana function?
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our friendship ended months ago, she unfriended me on facebook. *real sad face* for questioning her on her lack of college degree, on declaring an official 'day of prayer' to fix the economy, and because i dared ask if the citizens pay for her health care (she wants to sue the feds to exempt az from having health care reform because she's crying poor...).

we're no longer bffs, can't imagine why.
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The first boat-lift of "Illegal Immigrants"!

laughing.............not to be picky but I will.........

St Augustine FL is the oldest continuously inhabited European settlement in the US and was founded in 1565 by Spaniards..there were earlier Spanish settlements but they were destroyed.

followed by Jamestown and Santa Fe NM in 1607

several colonies were established in Canada, Mexico, Central America in the late 1490's and early 1500's.....

the Acoma and Taos Pueblos (New Mexico) are the oldest continuously occupied cities/towns in North America.........settled around 1000 CE (CE=common Era).....followed by the Hopi town of Oraibi (Arizona) around 1100 CE
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laughing.............not to be picky but I will.........

St Augustine FL is the oldest continuously inhabited European settlement in the US and was founded in 1565 by Spaniards..there were earlier Spanish settlements but they were destroyed.

followed by Jamestown and Santa Fe NM in 1607

several colonies were established in Canada, Mexico, Central America in the late 1490's and early 1500's.....

the Acoma and Taos Pueblos (New Mexico) are the oldest continuously occupied cities/towns in North America.........settled around 1000 CE (CE=common Era).....followed by the Hopi town of Oraibi (Arizona) around 1100 CE
True, this makes me more of a US citizen than most, since I am part Spaniard.

Truth be told, it was those who came in the Mayflower who are considered the "first" settlers, which we all know not to be true. This is among the many lies taught to us at schools.

Although, the only ones that can claim to be "true" Americans, North, South and Central, are Native Americans, of which I also have a chunk of. Everyone else has immigrated, mostly illegally to the US.

Funnily enough, I would be stopped over in AZ because I don't "look" American, yet my bloodline says otherwise.
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