Neurodiversity

JazzGirl · 04-25-2010, 10:53 AM

Thank you for the welcome everyone.

StoneFinn · 05-03-2010, 07:07 AM

sometimes there's not a word or set of words. just a picture i cannot draw here. it's just about needing to be where someone else understands.

katzietootle · 05-03-2010, 07:59 AM

a 9 year old with autism learned to play piano by ear using only three notes but can play a whole song such as this (copied and pasted)
i dealt with this kid when he was still 2 and can't barely say A,E, when he still needs motivation with his sitting tolerance, has fleeting eye contact, cannot recognize letters,don't have imitation skills...and now...yeeba!!!im so proud of him... and everyone around him who gives him undying love and support...

violaine · 05-04-2010, 08:34 AM

[QUOTE=StoneFinn;97630]sometimes there's not a word or set of words. just a picture i cannot draw here. it's just about needing to be where someone else understands.

yes!

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Liam · 05-13-2010, 11:11 AM

I've been thinking about this for some time, and I decided to put it out there to those on the spectrum. Did you have to learn, NOT to trust people?

Andrew, Jr. · 05-13-2010, 11:27 AM

Liam,

I do not know how to not to trust people. I trust everyone. Then when I get burned, I know what you mean. Otherwise the answer is no.

Now I try to be a forgiving man, and try to practice my faith. I try to always turn to my other cheek, and to always embrace everyone. No matter who or what they are. They are people and they require love above all things.

Andrew

violaine · 05-15-2010, 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=Liam;105023]I've been thinking about this for some time, and I decided to put it out there to those on the spectrum. Did you have to learn, NOT to trust people?

dear liam,

in a word- yes.

when i was a small child, and my family mentioned someone 'stealing' me, i'd say, 'don't worry, they'll bring me back in ten minutes!' do you think that i must have repeated what i overheard?

acceptance is beautiful to know, and to be able to provide others. if an individual is wired to be naturally open, and then grows up with a lot of freedom to 'be', how does she know that not everyone else out there receives the same wiring/familial experiences?

it took me a long time to figure out!

ways i learned to be more guarded around certain people fairly straightforward: i feel worse around them than i do otherwise, and more adds up in the negative column. sure, there are people [NT's], capable of detecting things sooner- and that's ohk! seeing roundly, i.e., often for me means taking the long road- with friend/co-worker/person of interest/family member, and while it's true, i may eventually be out of a friendship [that * i * thought existed], better to be out than remain stuck in one-sidedness.

on the other hand, a break just may be needed. it depends on the person, situation, and whether or not my bounce-back has been exhausted!

perils. pleasures. of AT wiring.

eta: it 'feels' worse being around them. emotionalising the patterns of undesirable behaviour. this happens after trying to make sense of the confusion, and then communicating questionable scenarios- intellectualising first and then going on how that is received. patterns and connections. it comes in stages- not all at once, like it may work for NT's.

Liam · 05-15-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Liam,

I do not know how to not to trust people. I trust everyone. Then when I get burned, I know what you mean. Otherwise the answer is no.

Now I try to be a forgiving man, and try to practice my faith. I try to always turn to my other cheek, and to always embrace everyone. No matter who or what they are. They are people and they require love above all things.

Andrew

I understand what you mean, Andrew, with the exception of a bump with my dentist, when I was four, I have pretty much always assumed people are kind and honest. However, my online experience has changed that, and I have learned not to be invested in people being honest, kind or even fair.

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Originally Posted by violaine

dear liam,

in a word- yes.

when i was a small child, and my family mentioned someone 'stealing' me, i'd say, 'don't worry, they'll bring me back in ten minutes!' do you think that i must have repeated what i overheard?

acceptance is beautiful to know, and to be able to provide others. if an individual is wired to be naturally open, and then grows up with a lot of freedom to 'be', how does she know that not everyone else out there receives the same wiring/familial experiences?

it took me a long time to figure out!

ways i learned to be more guarded around certain people fairly straightforward: i feel worse around them than i do otherwise, and more adds up in the negative column. sure, there are people [NT's], capable of detecting things sooner- and that's ohk! seeing roundly, i.e., often for me means taking the long road- with friend/co-worker/person of interest/family member, and while it's true, i may eventually be out of a friendship [that * i * thought existed], better to be out than remain stuck in one-sidedness.

on the other hand, a break just may be needed. it depends on the person, situation, and whether or not my bounce-back has been exhausted!

perils. pleasures. of AT wiring.

eta: it 'feels' worse being around them. emotionalising the patterns of undesirable behaviour. this happens after trying to make sense of the confusion, and then communicating questionable scenarios- intellectualising first and then going on how that is received. patterns and connections. it comes in stages- not all at once, like it may work for NT's.

Why on earth would anyone want to return you in ten minutes, Belle? That is a wonderful story of how we repeat what we hear, when we are kids.

Feelings, are so tricky, I don't think many NT folks understand how foreign they are, to many of us on the spectrum. It took a long time for me to understand what a stomach ache can mean for me. I've come to recognise that this means something is terribly off and it is not good. This unfamiliarity with feelings is definitely a two-edged sword, however I am grateful I am how I am.

Andrew, Jr. · 05-15-2010, 07:35 PM

Liam,

I posted the other day that I felt that everyone here was my family. And I had someone tell me this was a community, and not a family. It confuses me. I was rejected by my family, and abandon. So tell me what are we then?

05-03-2010, 07:07 AM	#2
StoneFinn Member How Do You Identify?: Transgressive Male Preferred Pronoun?: masculine Relationship Status: hog-tied with love Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: beyond the never-never Posts: 157 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 234 Thanked 312 Times in 91 Posts Rep Power: 1671350	sometimes there's not a word or set of words. just a picture i cannot draw here. it's just about needing to be where someone else understands. __________________ "Iron rusts from disuse, stagnant water loses its purity, and in cold weather becomes frozen; even so does inaction sap the vigors of the mind." ~~ Da Vinci "If I were to think of and dwell on disastrous possibilities, I could do nothing. I throw myself headlong into my work, and come up again with my studies; if the storm within gets too loud, I take a glass too much to stun myself." ~~ Van Gogh

05-03-2010, 07:59 AM	#3
katzietootle Junior Member How Do You Identify?: alien wandering Relationship Status: wandering Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: illegal alien on mars, permanent resident on pluto,migrating to planet kazoom Posts: 91 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 37 Thanked 57 Times in 35 Posts Rep Power: 24	a 9 year old with autism learned to play piano by ear using only three notes but can play a whole song such as this (copied and pasted) i dealt with this kid when he was still 2 and can't barely say A,E, when he still needs motivation with his sitting tolerance, has fleeting eye contact, cannot recognize letters,don't have imitation skills...and now...yeeba!!!im so proud of him... and everyone around him who gives him undying love and support... __________________ "The number of people watching me is directly proportional to the stupidity of my action."

05-13-2010, 11:11 AM	#5
Liam Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Guy Preferred Pronoun?: He, Him, His Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Evergreen State Posts: 2,269 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 14,865 Thanked 6,877 Times in 1,861 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I've been thinking about this for some time, and I decided to put it out there to those on the spectrum. Did you have to learn, NOT to trust people? __________________ <3 Love is weird.

05-15-2010, 12:55 PM	#7
violaine Timed Out How Do You Identify?: atypical Preferred Pronoun?: plague words and phrases Relationship Status: love wise guys of the avian world Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wekiva springs basin Posts: 3,236 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,934 Thanked 3,293 Times in 1,301 Posts Rep Power: 0	i only know what you show me- [QUOTE=Liam;105023]I've been thinking about this for some time, and I decided to put it out there to those on the spectrum. Did you have to learn, NOT to trust people? dear liam, in a word- yes. when i was a small child, and my family mentioned someone 'stealing' me, i'd say, 'don't worry, they'll bring me back in ten minutes!' do you think that i must have repeated what i overheard? acceptance is beautiful to know, and to be able to provide others. if an individual is wired to be naturally open, and then grows up with a lot of freedom to 'be', how does she know that not everyone else out there receives the same wiring/familial experiences? it took me a long time to figure out! ways i learned to be more guarded around certain people fairly straightforward: i feel worse around them than i do otherwise, and more adds up in the negative column. sure, there are people [NT's], capable of detecting things sooner- and that's ohk! seeing roundly, i.e., often for me means taking the long road- with friend/co-worker/person of interest/family member, and while it's true, i may eventually be out of a friendship [that * i * thought existed], better to be out than remain stuck in one-sidedness. on the other hand, a break just may be needed. it depends on the person, situation, and whether or not my bounce-back has been exhausted! perils. pleasures. of AT wiring. eta: it 'feels' worse being around them. emotionalising the patterns of undesirable behaviour. this happens after trying to make sense of the confusion, and then communicating questionable scenarios- intellectualising first and then going on how that is received. patterns and connections. it comes in stages- not all at once, like it may work for NT's. Last edited by violaine; 05-15-2010 at 01:21 PM.

04-25-2010, 10:53 AM	#1
JazzGirl Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Feminine pronouns Relationship Status: Not looking Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: . Posts: 184 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,447 Thanked 594 Times in 153 Posts Rep Power: 8712111	Thank you for the welcome everyone.

05-04-2010, 08:34 AM	#4
violaine Timed Out How Do You Identify?: atypical Preferred Pronoun?: plague words and phrases Relationship Status: love wise guys of the avian world Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: wekiva springs basin Posts: 3,236 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,934 Thanked 3,293 Times in 1,301 Posts Rep Power: 0	[QUOTE=StoneFinn;97630]sometimes there's not a word or set of words. just a picture i cannot draw here. it's just about needing to be where someone else understands. yes! . .

05-13-2010, 11:27 AM	#6
Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Liam, I do not know how to not to trust people. I trust everyone. Then when I get burned, I know what you mean. Otherwise the answer is no. Now I try to be a forgiving man, and try to practice my faith. I try to always turn to my other cheek, and to always embrace everyone. No matter who or what they are. They are people and they require love above all things. Andrew

05-15-2010, 07:35 PM	#9
Andrew, Jr. Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Me Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Unavailable Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Over the Rainbow in a House Posts: 5,072 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,004 Thanked 5,249 Times in 2,216 Posts Rep Power: 0	Liam, I posted the other day that I felt that everyone here was my family. And I had someone tell me this was a community, and not a family. It confuses me. I was rejected by my family, and abandon. So tell me what are we then?