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[stargazingboi]

Interesting fun fact

[firegal]

Originally Posted by stargazingboi

Interesting fun fact

I am wondering about those numbers as they got penalized for the illegal video taping in 2008 the Coach was fined $500,000 and the team $250,000 and they lost a draft pick. That was one incident. Who ever made that list must of been a big fan of the pats.

Unless it was just this years....then probably

[stargazingboi]

Originally Posted by firegal

I am wondering about those numbers as they got penalized for the illegal video taping in 2008 the Coach was fined $500,000 and the team $250,000 and they lost a draft pick. That was one incident. Who ever made that list must of been a big fan of the pats.

Unless it was just this years....then probably

I remember 2008, and yeah they screwed up...and paid for it. They also learned from it and it's been how many years since then?

these numbers are from this year alone and years prior show close to the same *shrugs* so yeah...haters be hatin

[Katniss]

Originally Posted by stargazingboi

I remember 2008, and yeah they screwed up...and paid for it. They also learned from it and it's been how many years since then?

these numbers are from this year alone and years prior show close to the same *shrugs* so yeah...haters be hatin

The Sportrac list of fined NFL teams is derived from data gathered from sources like USA Today, OvertheCap, NBC Sports articles and tweets, etc. and is for the 2014-2015 season only. Not *directly* from the NFL. The Colts are actually disputing the accuracy of this report and when questioned directly if there could be inaccuracies the Sportrac company did not respond. See full article from INDYSTAR here : http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...-nfl/22401743/

I do think it worth noting that the fines largely include those linked to substance abuse. The Colts Robert Mathis was listed with a $2.06 million dollar fine (he claims he blew a positive test due to a fertility enhancing drug as they are trying to have a 3rd child. Dude, seriously...at $2.06 million fine you need to try being a daddy during the off-season as that's a hella' fine) and LaVon Brazil had $588,513 both for substance abuse (per Sprotrac calculations as again the NFL won't release data such as this). Also worth noting Brazil was released from the team before the season began due to his substance abuse issues even though he is included in the calculations. Also of note these fines do not include fines handed down to coaches and team owners.

I don't think any team has a spotless record. Sadly there is too much money involved in games such as these and money often breeds corruption. I do hope Sunday night's game is honest, safe, and above board for both teams. I just felt the need to look into how these statistic were derived because as Mark Twain so eloquently stated, "There are three types of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Katniss~~(not a hater or a deflator)

[Cin]

What gets me is that teams like the New Orleans Saints with their bounty program, where even the head coach is involved in making a hit list and paying players for injuring the players from opposing teams who are on that list seem to roll around in shit and come out smelling like a rose. Putting a bounty on the heads of quarterbacks so players get paid extra to hurt them seems despicable to me. But you don't hear so much about that.

The Broncos were fined only $50,000 for videotaping the 49ers walkthrough practice.

In 2012 the Chargers were accused of using stickum which was banned in 1981.

Former Buccaneers quarterback Brad Johnson has admitted to paying a bribe to have the footballs tampered with before the 2003 Super Bowl.

The New York Giants were accused of faking injuries.

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin’s was fined for walking on the field and interfering in a kickoff return foiling a sure touch down.

A lot of teams have been caught cheating. Some doing really scary season and career ending stuff such as the Bounty program employed by the New Orleans Saints. But to listen to most people the Patriots are the only team to ever be accused of any wrong doing.

I'm not defending cheating. But cheating is cheating even when it's a team other than the Pats who are doing it. And there are plenty of other teams cheating. The hate for the Patriots is out of proportion especially considering there has been no conclusion reached yet concerning the under inflated balls.

[firegal]

Its sunday now and the past is just that!

Both teams have made it thru all the news...games..critics...

I am a fan... not a hater.... so Go Seahawks!

I hope for a good game from both teams!


PS... disclaimer...still want my hawks to bring it home.

[~ocean]

~~ GO PATRIOTS ~~ if anyone wants to watch the Super Bowl join us in chat ~ there will be a separate room for the game ~

[clay]

Originally Posted by firegal

Its sunday now and the past is just that!

Both teams have made it thru all the news...games..critics...

I am a fan... not a hater.... so Go Seahawks!

I hope for a good game from both teams!


PS... disclaimer...still want my hawks to bring it home.

I agree wholeheartedly, bro! Go Hawks!........wearing my new FAVE teeshirt! Go firefighters!

[Blade]

Yeah I'm ready for some college football but that is a long wait.

As for the Super Bowl I may watch it, may not. I don't care who wins, but wouldn't pull for the Pats if they were the only team playing.

My opinion is they shouldn't be playing anyway, cheating is cheating and they are known for it. They should have been bumped from the Super Bowl this year and maybe that would help them to think about the importance of playing fair football.

[Cin]

The Seattle Seahawks and Pete Carroll were fined more than $300,000 and docked two minicamp practices in 2015 for breaking NFL rules on offseason practices.

And the Seahawks were fined for a similar violation in 2012 by commissioner Roger Goodell and were forced to give up their final two OTA practices that year, along with an unknown monetary fine. Then they turned around and did the exact same thing again. Clearly they believe the rules aren't meant for them. They haven't learned a thing.

I've read sports writers comments that this head start is why the Seahawks looked so good in the preseason.

If cheating is a reason not to be allowed to play in the super bowl, then they need to find TWO replacement teams. Or maybe since cheating in the case of the Pats hasn't actually been proved, it's the Seahawks who shouldn't be allowed to play in the super bowl.

[Blade]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

The Seattle Seahawks and Pete Carroll were fined more than $300,000 and docked two minicamp practices in 2015 for breaking NFL rules on offseason practices.

And the Seahawks were fined for a similar violation in 2012 by commissioner Roger Goodell and were forced to give up their final two OTA practices that year, along with an unknown monetary fine. Then they turned around and did the exact same thing again. Clearly they believe the rules aren't meant for them. They haven't learned a thing.

I've read sports writers comments that this head start is why the Seahawks looked so good in the preseason.

If cheating is a reason not to be allowed to play in the super bowl, then they need to find TWO replacement teams. Or maybe since cheating in the case of the Pats hasn't actually been proved, it's the Seahawks who shouldn't be allowed to play in the super bowl.

That would be perfect cuz cheating is cheating. I knew my opinion wouldn't be popular when I posted it, but I've never tried to post to be popular. I'm not stupid enough to believe some random ball boy let the air out of the balls without being told to. And we all know the Pats have cheated in the past and been fined and punished. They just got caught again. Probably all the teams cheat in some way or bend the rules a little, but to do so in championship games and get caught, brings it to the forefront more. It's wrong no matter when they do it.

I've never been a Pats fan, or a Seahawks fan so it really doesn't matter to me who wins. It just supports the notion, of the more money you have the opportunity to make, the more corrupt you become. GREEDY I guess is a better word.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by Blade

And we all know the Pats have cheated in the past and been fined and punished.

Yes, we ALL know this. That's one of the things that irks me the most about this. Everybody knows about the Pats but not many are aware of all the other teams and some of the actually dangerous and career threatening cheating they engage in. And while cheating is cheating, I believe there are degrees and the reality is nothing was going to change the outcome of that AFC championship game. It was a blow out that had nothing to do with the inflation of footballs. But there has been cheating done by some teams that does give them an advantage or worse that takes out for the season one of the key players on an opposing team. Are those teams vilified? I think not. Just because I'm a Pats fan doesn't mean my brain fell out. Even if I wasn't a Pats fan I could see the unfairness and inconsistency in how the Pats are judged compared to other teams.

[Shystonefem]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

Yes, we ALL know this. That's one of the things that irks me the most about this. Everybody knows about the Pats but not many are aware of all the other teams and some of the actually dangerous and career threatening cheating they engage in. And while cheating is cheating, I believe there are degrees and the reality is nothing was going to change the outcome of that AFC championship game. It was a blow out that had nothing to do with the inflation of footballs. But there has been cheating done by some teams that does give them an advantage or worse that takes out for the season one of the key players on an opposing team. Are those teams vilified? I think not. Just because I'm a Pats fan doesn't mean my brain fell out. Even if I wasn't a Pats fan I could see the unfairness and inconsistency in how the Pats are judged compared to other teams.

I completely agree, the Pats seem to be judged, in the court of public opinion, harsher than the other teams that do the same type of things.

And, I also agree that the game against the Colts was a blowout. Even if they took away all of the Patriots points in the first half, the Pats still would have won 28-7. It's just how it is.

Now, there is only three and a half hours to kickoff. Enjoy the pre-gaming and the tailgating (if you are lucky enough to be doing that) and enjoy the game. I think it's going to be a great game!

[Bèsame*]

Originally Posted by Blade

As for the Super Bowl I may watch it, may not.

Side bet going on...I bet he does!