Family Research Council leader caught w/ gay prostitute

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by PearlsNLace

This is not crap that helps us. By us, I mean queer community that needs to be recognized with rights for protections, marriage, immigration, adoption, all that.

This is the kind of crap that makes us look worse even.

Cause its not about a story of us in loving relationships, its not a story about who we really are.

Its a story about how the conservatives accuse us to be. It pisses me off.

I mean, certainly, sometimes we are just looking for some hot body on a boat. Hell yeah. House bois free to apply via pm.

However... we are MORE than this.

I hope Im making myself clear.

No, actually, I don't get it. This guy has spent the term of his adult life trying to screw over the gay community. He's now been hoist by his own petard. I think this is VERY good for us because every one of these stories demonstrates, empirically, viscerally and in a way no one can deny, that each time these yahoos say 'gay people are like this' or 'gay people do that' or 'gay people are a threat because of this' they are projecting out of their OWN fantasies, fears and desires. How does this guy, co-founder of one of the largest, most influential, anti-gay groups in the country, being shown for the utter self-hating hypocrite that he is NOT help us?

[Apocalipstic]

See for me, this shows hypocrisy, not how gays live.

[SuperFemme]

I think it helps us a TON when shit like this happens.

This man is one of the largest proponents of Gay Reparative Therapy.

Meaning that he has been telling the world, the courts and the White House how our *lifestyle* is a *choice*. We can be cured of our sinful choices by way of Jesus according to him.

Let's call this what it is shall we? Yet more proof that we are normal as is and the people who use us for personal and political gain are shameful hypocrites.

[SuperFemme]

Heterosexual people don't have thousands of websites selling sex?

I don't feel overshadowed.
I feel more normalized.

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by June

I don't think it helps us overall. I think while it does shine a light on the hypocrisy, it also looks like "we're" all a bunch of pervs out to get laid (SHUT UP SNOW!).

It feels to me like it erases the 'normality' of my actual life. My personal family values.

Don't get me wrong, this kind of stuff enrages me, but it also feels like it gets more attention than those of us who just go about our daily lives, working, being parents, paying taxes, being good human beings.

June;

You're absolutely correct, this kind of stuff DOES get more attention than those of us who go about our daily lives, working, paying taxes and being good human beings. I would submit to you, dear friend, that in fact this is a GOOD thing. Go back to my invocation of the journalism school "dog bites man isn't news, but man bites dog is news". I would rather live in a world where my getting up and going to work and then going to class and then dragging my tired butch ass home is a case of the dog biting than man, than of the man biting the dog. I submit that, in case, the reason why you don't hear much about this queer people who go about living their ordinary lives is *because* they are ordinary lives.

My sister getting up and going to work everyday is about as newsworthy as the fact that the Sun rose in the East this morning. Your getting up and going to work everyday is as newsworthy as my sister doing so. It would be a sad sign indeed if, in fact, we got noticed for doing ordinary things because it would mean one of two things: either people don't expect us to have ordinary lives, in which case our doing so becomes news or we, as a group, really *don't* have ordinary, mundane lives. Given the choice, which would you want--to be treated like any other citizen, a curiosity or the exception to the rule?

Cheers
Aj