2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish

[Kobi]

Are there any precedents for storms delaying elections?

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Are there any precedents for storms delaying elections?

I can't remember it ever being an issue. But that is when paper ballots were used.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by Corkey

We can walk to our precinct so no worries, may need paper ballots but we're going to vote no matter.

Same here...can walk. I did have this weird little panic thing happen...like what if something got lost and I am not registered and/or they moved my polling place and I don't know it?

Crazy thoughts from a scared Obama won't win, Butch.

[Martina]

[BullDog]

Corkey & Ami, Dapper & Tantalizing stay safe out there!

Oh and yes be sure to vote, glad to hear you can walk. Crawl if you have to, lol. Seriously though we are thinking of you.

One state I am a bit nervous about because of the storm is PA. As I understand it there is only in person voting on Election day itself. Correct me if I'm wrong Corkey. So if the weather is bad maybe it effects turnout? OK hopefully not.

I haven't heard about in person voting days for other states that could be effected by the storm yet.

Nate Silver analyzed Ohio today- being up 2.3 with 10 days to go. He seems pretty bullish about that. Woo hoo.

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Corkey & Ami, Dapper & Tantalizing stay safe out there!

Oh and yes be sure to vote, glad to hear you can walk. Crawl if you have to, lol. Seriously though we are thinking of you.

One state I am a bit nervous about because of the storm is PA. As I understand it there is only in person voting on Election day itself. Correct me if I'm wrong Corkey. So if the weather is bad maybe it effects turnout? OK hopefully not.

I haven't heard about in person voting days for other states that could be effected by the storm yet.

Nate Silver analyzed Ohio today- being up 2.3 with 10 days to go. He seems pretty bullish about that. Woo hoo.

There is early absentee for seniors and differently abled, but we're on those damn machines, so I hope they do have paper ballots. PA is fired up to vote, trust me Dems are gonna vote even if we have to stand in line all fricken day.

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by Corkey

There is early absentee for seniors and differently abled, but we're on those damn machines, so I hope they do have paper ballots. PA is fired up to vote, trust me Dems are gonna vote even if we have to stand in line all fricken day.

Yes I believe you Corkey! I lived in central NY for 10 years and Northeasterners are no wimps when it comes to weather. I hope the storm weakens and everyone stays safe.

I don't know why I torture myself with these things, but I did look up which states have early in person voting. Over 30 states do, but many along the eastern seaboard don't. Hopefully the bad weather will have passed by Election Day, but it would be nice for people to have more leeway.

[Soon]

From the Miami Herald which endorsed Obama:

"Romney has taken so many contradictory positions on important issues — abortion, immigration, even Obamacare (first he said he would repeal it; then he said he would keep the parts most people like) — that he could take any action he chooses once in office and claim that it fulfills a campaign promise he made at one point or another. He has run on his record, and he has run from his record.

That’s not an issue for the president. Not all Americans like what he stands for, but they know who he is. He has championed the middle class and has a larger, more tolerant notion of America that includes closing the inequality gap and evening the playing field, as exemplified by making an equal-pay-for-women bill the first law he signed. He has fought for the DREAM Act on behalf of the immigrant youths brought here by their parents, and he wants a Supreme Court that will continue to support Roe v. Wade. That’s crucial."

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Corkey & Ami, Dapper & Tantalizing stay safe out there!

Oh and yes be sure to vote, glad to hear you can walk. Crawl if you have to, lol. Seriously though we are thinking of you.

One state I am a bit nervous about because of the storm is PA. As I understand it there is only in person voting on Election day itself. Correct me if I'm wrong Corkey. So if the weather is bad maybe it effects turnout? OK hopefully not.

I haven't heard about in person voting days for other states that could be effected by the storm yet.

Nate Silver analyzed Ohio today- being up 2.3 with 10 days to go. He seems pretty bullish about that. Woo hoo.

Thanks, BullDog. I am worried about this very large Weeping willow tree in my yard as it is close to the house. I will be here by myself, but have close neighbors.

Tantalizing is for sure overprepared at her house. Part of her job at work is disaster stuff, so she's got it going on! Tantalizing's 18 year old son will be there with her.

Yes, for Delaware there is no early voting. And I seriously would walk if I needed to. DE should be an easy win for Obama, anyway.

[Martina]

Listening to yesterday's Rachel Maddow show. Rachel went on a rant about Romney being willing to say any damned thing and then not correcting it when the truth is pointed out. Like saying that Jeep is going to close down and go to China.

Anyway, Rachel:

"It’s ok for your uncle who watches Fox News all day and yells at the TV to say, 'I saw that story somewhere.' But when you want to be President of the United States, you can’t keep proving that your first line of intelligence is the suffocating oxygen-free right wing blogosphere . . . . Stuff is not true just because you read it somewhere."

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by Martina

Listening to yesterday's Rachel Maddow show. Rachel went on a rant about Romney being willing to say any damned thing and then not correcting it when the truth is pointed out. Like saying that Jeep is going to close down and go to China.

Anyway, Rachel:

"It’s ok for your uncle who watches Fox News all day and yells at the TV to say, 'I saw that story somewhere.' But when you want to President of the United States, you can’t keep proving that your first line of intelligence is the suffocating oxygen-free right wing blogosphere . . . . Stuff is not true just because you read it somewhere."

One of the most maddening things about all his lies is even when reporters or others find out he's lying, he tells his lies in front of big crowds- the debates, campaign speeches. The corrections are heard by much smaller audiences. So he gets away with murder.

[Martina]

Slight dip for Obama today, and now the storm.

Wondering how this will affect the ground game and then actual voting.

[DapperButch]

You know, there are moments when I am really, genuinely terrified as to what will happen if Romney wins office.

I mean, he is SCARY. Seriously. It is WHO he is that terrifies me the most. Not what he says, not what he thinks...it is actually the fact that we DON'T know what he think that is the really scary thing. Those kind of people are the dangerous ones.

Of one things I am certain...it can NOT good for women, POC, or the poor in our country.

Even his smile is creepy.

Yes, I know that I am speaking to the choir here, but does anyone else have those terrifying moments where it really REALLY hits them?

At least we knew with George W. he was an idiot...but Romney is way smart and due to that has more of any ability to do more damaging things...things that will set women WAY back...a very dangerous man he is.

[Kätzchen]

I cannot resist tonight and feel compelled to say what's on my mind... not only about the election, but the Press.

I will be *so* upset if Romney is voted into office - especially in light of past issues with voter balloting issues (fraud, tampering, intimidation, et al). Worse, it would appear that there is not one single person of executive power who will call out this type of blatant (or in some cases, it's well hidden) case of what I feel is a civil rights related issue. I wish it wasn't the end of my day so I could find the term I really want to use that describes this situation perfectly, but apparently I am tired.

But more importantly, this is what bothers me just as much as the former issue concerning Romney: It's that the Press seems to not care how news is reported or what constitutes news, in and of itself, or even prioritizing their news content in terms of not only reporting on election issues (as well as news in general) that is of paramount importance to every single person who lives within the jurisdiction of the US, but in terms of providing news that is honest, credible, legitimate and not what the news has been offering up as 'news.'

I find it unconscienable (did I spell that right?) that the public in general, it would seem, does not feel compelled to hold the journalistic press corps to a standard that is above reproach and that it would appear that counter-news agencies seem to not call out major corps press members for their less than stellar performance in news reporting.

I feel that the press and other social media outlets are culpable in manipulating press releases and publishing them as bonafide, legitimate, credible sources of news (information). I can't tell you how many times I have called into an editors desk and launched my own disapproval of their so-called process as a way of taking action; and encouraging others I know here at home, to make calls or write letters to Editors of news periodicals/publications, as well.

[Martina]

Slight bump for Obama today. Living and dying by these polls is ridiculous, but I do it to an extent.

I keep reading people saying that independents tend to break late for Republicans and that there is polling to show that they are breaking for Romney.

I also hear that they think turnout is going to be low -- unrelated to the storm. That's bad too for Dems.

Are there trends in the polls, or are people just steeling themselves in case the worst happens?

Those pictures of Obama with Gov. Christie and the folks from New Jersey have to help.

Re the battleground states, I was worried about Pennsylvania, but it looks like there wasn't that much flood damage. Fuck Virginia. If we win it, good. If not, meh. I don't think much hinges on it (though what do I know?) But it would be a blow to lose PA. New York and New Jersey are ours. If the vote turned out otherwise, it would have to be related to storm related errors. So, just give us those electoral votes and let those folks concentrate on digging out and drying out.

I can't wait for this damned election to be over.

[Slater]

My happy thought of the day is that Romney's position on FEMA could cost him Florida. It has been a dead heat there and talk like that has to scare the crap out of them. If Obama wins Florida, it's game over.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Slater

My happy thought of the day is that Romney's position on FEMA could cost him Florida. It has been a dead heat there and talk like that has to scare the crap out of them. If Obama wins Florida, it's game over.

I cant read any Romney stuff these days. What is his, currently likely to change tomorrow, take on FEMA?

[DMW]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2048867.html


Adorable and sad at the same time.
Poor kid...she said it though...it should be so obvious.

[Martina]

Bloomberg endorsed Obama!! I don't know why I am so happy about that. It wasn't like New York wasn't going to go blue anyway. But I am.

*big grin*

[tonaderspeisung]

Originally Posted by Martina

Bloomberg endorsed Obama!! I don't know why I am so happy about that. It wasn't like New York wasn't going to go blue anyway. But I am.

*big grin*

ok now i'm all kinds of suspicious

bloomberg - who i always thought he did not support obama politics - outright tells him not to come around for super storm photo ops - and he gives him his endorsement

christie - who had that rather unflattering toward obama leadership convention speech - he's all nicey nice and now offering overtly favorable and borderline overly effusive commentary on obama's abilities to jump into action and lead

something is a foot