Fierce Femmes, Allies and Gender Expectations...

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 11:56 AM

I have been thinking about starting this tread for weeks, and I keep putting it off for lack of a catchy name.....

I in no way am trying to take anything away or diss Traditional Femme and Butch/FtM roles....

However,

I would like to hear from Femmes who ID differently. Alpha Femmes, Femme Daddy's, Femmes who feel like dudes, Femmes who wish they were men, Femme Tops...ALL Femmes who have ever thought "Hey, how come all we discuss is Butch and FtM gender?", "I don't exactly fit the stereotypes people seem to be having about what Femme is?" or even "I do fit every single stereotype, but wants to discuss anyway"...

Femme/Butch does not = Girl/Boy
Femme does not = submissive
Femme does not = bottom

So many expectations of what Femme is supposed to be. What have you faced?

Thoughts on any of this?

Everyone is welcome!!!

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:03 PM

I, for example, have way more in common with a 16 year old guy, than I do Betty Crocker!

I am not even sure what a feeling is.

I am very un-romantic.

I fall alsleep after sex.

I strap on.

I like to "run the show", as it were.

I like to be called Daddy

etc....

The_Lady_Snow · 04-05-2010, 12:05 PM

One thing I have learned to despise over the years is...

"No I don't want a baby girl type femme" in the same breath

"Could you be just a lil more girly or femme?"

makes me want to punt a juice box off their fucking neck...

Folks are uncomfy or to insecure to be with a femme like myself, I don't submit, nor am I a Hallmark moment...

So my femme surely does not fit that pretty lil pink demure box most people are comfy with...

The_Lady_Snow · 04-05-2010, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I, for example, have way more in common with a 16 year old guy, than I do Betty Crocker!

Gurlllll, don't I know it... *I* have boys that bake for me

I am not even sure what a feeling is.

*I* can make ya feel though

I am very un-romantic.

Right? You want romance go cruise your local Hallmark store

I fall alsleep after sex.

heh

I strap on.

I too love my cock!

I like to "run the show", as it were.

I too run my household..

I like to be called Daddy

There is only one Daddy in our house, and that is *me*

etc....

For myself I can compute with you in these ways.... I can't with alot of other femmes cause they are what I am not nor ever could be, so at times I have been downed by them for not being a *real femme*

My response..

"I got your *real femme* right here as I grab my big fat femme cock..

Just sayin

Selenay · 04-05-2010, 12:22 PM

I am femme
I am a bottom
I am submissive
I am passive
I take it

Except

When I'm not

I am butch
I'm a Top
I'm the instigator
I'm Miss
I give it

I don't cook and I don't bake
I don't like to fold and I'm happy to keep all my clothes in two piles: dirty, and clean.
I feel far more powerful walking down a street wearing Tims than I do in Steve Maddens

Who's your Daddy, now?

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

One thing I have learned to despise over the years is...

"No I don't want a baby girl type femme" in the same breath

"Could you be just a lil more girly or femme?"

makes me want to punt a juice box off their fucking neck...

Folks are uncomfy or to insecure to be with a femme like myself, I don't submit, nor am I a Hallmark moment...

So my femme surely does not fit that pretty lil pink demure box most people are comfy with...

Ha, no Lifetime television for Women here either!

When I first joined a B/F site someone asked me why I did not go with a softer name like Snugglybunnyfemme...well first off, I am not a snuggler...I am llergic to rabbits (adorable as they are)...and well, I just don't feel like anyone's baby anything.

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

For myself I can compute with you in these ways.... I can't with alot of other femmes cause they are what I am not nor ever could be, so at times I have been downed by them for not being a *real femme*

My response..

"I got your *real femme* right here as I grab my big fat femme cock..

Just sayin

The Hallmark isle gives me hives. Sometimes all Cynthia will ask for for a holiday is a sweet card I have actually read.....eeeeeeekkkkk....I almost hyperventilate every time.

My cock is blue and opalescent and named Blue Thunder!

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selenay

I am femme
I am a bottom
I am submissive
I am passive
I take it

Except

When I'm not

I am butch
I'm a Top
I'm the instigator
I'm Miss
I give it

I don't cook and I don't bake
I don't like to fold and I'm happy to keep all my clothes in two piles: dirty, and clean.
I feel far more powerful walking down a street wearing Tims than I do in Steve Maddens

Who's your Daddy, now?

Oh yeahhhh!

I do the laundry, but only beacsue I am picky about it. I don't cook, Cynthia is picky about that.

I bring home the bacon and hand it over!

Woof!

The_Lady_Snow · 04-05-2010, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Ha, no Lifetime television for Women here either!

When I first joined a B/F site someone asked me why I did not go with a softer name like Snugglybunnyfemme...well first off, I am not a snuggler...I am llergic to rabbits (adorable as they are)...and well, I just don't feel like anyone's baby anything.

My favorite thing is and always will be the horror and offense people take to

the ever so deviant

FEMME COCK

heh

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

My favorite thing is and always will be the horror and offense people take to

the ever so deviant

FEMME COCK

heh

Ohhhhh the humanityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Though some seem to like it. Muahahahaha.

SuperFemme · 04-05-2010, 12:31 PM

BOINK. Did somebody say Femme Cock?

I love it (unless it has glitterj).

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

BOINK. Did somebody say Femme Cock?

I love it (unless it has glitterj).

But the opalescence is fine, right???

SuperFemme · 04-05-2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

But the opalescence is fine, right???

Opal IS my birthstone.

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:34 PM

I do not always behave or even sit like a lady....

Do you?

Baby and wedding showers? Can't do it.

and you better remind me when your birthday is if you expect me to remember.

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

Opal IS my birthstone.

Perfect!

Selenay · 04-05-2010, 12:35 PM

When I strap on my boots
And I slip on my suit
You see the vixen in me
Becomes an angel for you.

Some days I'm a super bitch
Up to my old tricks
But it won't last forever.
Next day I'm your super girl
Out to save the world
And it keeps getting better.

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selenay

When I strap on my boots
And I slip on my suit
You see the vixen in me
Becomes an angel for you.

Some days I'm a super bitch
Up to my old tricks
But it won't last forever.
Next day I'm your super girl
Out to save the world
And it keeps getting better.

I love it!

SuperFemme · 04-05-2010, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I do not always behave or even sit like a lady....

Do you?

Baby and wedding showers? Can't do it.

and you better remind me when your birthday is if you expect me to remember.

I just had to put on a baby shower for my MORMON daughter.

It.
Almost.
Killed.
Me.

The_Lady_Snow · 04-05-2010, 12:47 PM

I hate baby showers, bridal showers, any kind of having to decorate kind of event...

I want nothing to do with it, I will show, bring a gift but I just don't have that gene in me. I get bored.

Apocalipstic · 04-05-2010, 12:52 PM

Femmes are not just one thing, We can be so many things.

We can fix cars, we can use power tools, we are strong, we are proud.

I refuse to be told I can't know about cars, or pump my own gas, or drive because I am Femme.

I hate the mere suggestion that I have to be submissive about anything... EVER.

I hate the suggestion that a Butch is soft or somehow less Butch if they like Femmes like Me.

I don't need to be saved.

04-05-2010, 11:56 AM	#1
Apocalipstic Pink Confection How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, Her, Ma'am Relationship Status: Dating Myself Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 4,266 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17,195 Thanked 11,362 Times in 2,838 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Fierce Femmes, Allies and Gender Expectations... I have been thinking about starting this tread for weeks, and I keep putting it off for lack of a catchy name..... I in no way am trying to take anything away or diss Traditional Femme and Butch/FtM roles.... However, I would like to hear from Femmes who ID differently. Alpha Femmes, Femme Daddy's, Femmes who feel like dudes, Femmes who wish they were men, Femme Tops...ALL Femmes who have ever thought "Hey, how come all we discuss is Butch and FtM gender?", "I don't exactly fit the stereotypes people seem to be having about what Femme is?" or even "I do fit every single stereotype, but wants to discuss anyway"... Femme/Butch does not = Girl/Boy Femme does not = submissive Femme does not = bottom So many expectations of what Femme is supposed to be. What have you faced? Thoughts on any of this? Everyone is welcome!!! __________________

04-05-2010, 12:03 PM	#2
Apocalipstic Pink Confection How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, Her, Ma'am Relationship Status: Dating Myself Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 4,266 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17,195 Thanked 11,362 Times in 2,838 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	I, for example, have way more in common with a 16 year old guy, than I do Betty Crocker! I am not even sure what a feeling is. I am very un-romantic. I fall alsleep after sex. I strap on. I like to "run the show", as it were. I like to be called Daddy etc.... __________________

04-05-2010, 12:05 PM	#3
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,077 Times in 15,670 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	One thing I have learned to despise over the years is... "No I don't want a baby girl type femme" in the same breath "Could you be just a lil more girly or femme?" makes me want to punt a juice box off their fucking neck... Folks are uncomfy or to insecure to be with a femme like myself, I don't submit, nor am I a Hallmark moment... So my femme surely does not fit that pretty lil pink demure box most people are comfy with... __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

04-05-2010, 12:22 PM	#5
Selenay Member How Do You Identify?: A soul for a compass and a heart for a pair of wings. Preferred Pronoun?: All I ask of living is to have no chains on me. Relationship Status: All I own are the strides I spend to the finish line. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Somewhere in between here and gone. Posts: 662 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 110 Thanked 1,447 Times in 369 Posts Rep Power: 6344715	Bless you for putting up with me, Boot. I am femme I am a bottom I am submissive I am passive I take it Except When I'm not I am butch I'm a Top I'm the instigator I'm Miss I give it I don't cook and I don't bake I don't like to fold and I'm happy to keep all my clothes in two piles: dirty, and clean. I feel far more powerful walking down a street wearing Tims than I do in Steve Maddens Who's your Daddy, now? __________________ Two or three things I know for sure, And one is that I would rather go naked Than wear the coat the world has made for me.

04-05-2010, 12:34 PM	#14
Apocalipstic Pink Confection How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, Her, Ma'am Relationship Status: Dating Myself Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 4,266 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17,195 Thanked 11,362 Times in 2,838 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	I do not always behave or even sit like a lady.... Do you? Baby and wedding showers? Can't do it. and you better remind me when your birthday is if you expect me to remember. __________________

04-05-2010, 12:31 PM	#11
SuperFemme Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Permanently Banned 10/24/2010 Preferred Pronoun?: She. Relationship Status: Married (one of 18,000) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,933 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,309 Thanked 7,108 Times in 2,327 Posts Rep Power: 0	BOINK. Did somebody say Femme Cock? I love it (unless it has glitterj).

04-05-2010, 12:35 PM	#16
Selenay Member How Do You Identify?: A soul for a compass and a heart for a pair of wings. Preferred Pronoun?: All I ask of living is to have no chains on me. Relationship Status: All I own are the strides I spend to the finish line. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Somewhere in between here and gone. Posts: 662 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 110 Thanked 1,447 Times in 369 Posts Rep Power: 6344715	This was my sig for the longest time. . . Courtesy of Christina Aguilera When I strap on my boots And I slip on my suit You see the vixen in me Becomes an angel for you. Some days I'm a super bitch Up to my old tricks But it won't last forever. Next day I'm your super girl Out to save the world And it keeps getting better. __________________ Two or three things I know for sure, And one is that I would rather go naked Than wear the coat the world has made for me.

04-05-2010, 12:47 PM	#19
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,077 Times in 15,670 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	I hate baby showers, bridal showers, any kind of having to decorate kind of event... I want nothing to do with it, I will show, bring a gift but I just don't have that gene in me. I get bored. __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

04-05-2010, 12:52 PM	#20
Apocalipstic Pink Confection How Do You Identify?: Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, Her, Ma'am Relationship Status: Dating Myself Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nashville Posts: 4,266 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 17,195 Thanked 11,362 Times in 2,838 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	Femmes are not just one thing, We can be so many things. We can fix cars, we can use power tools, we are strong, we are proud. I refuse to be told I can't know about cars, or pump my own gas, or drive because I am Femme. I hate the mere suggestion that I have to be submissive about anything... EVER. I hate the suggestion that a Butch is soft or somehow less Butch if they like Femmes like Me. I don't need to be saved. __________________