Beck and Palin

[Apocalipstic]

Bad bag pipes.

or the satellite is making them off key?

[Apocalipstic]

Palin is crying

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

He is all excited there are helicopters and planes over he thinks to take pictures of him.

*cough bullshit cough* DC is a no fly zone.

[Apocalipstic]

Beck cries again.

They have raised 1.5 millin $$'s alledgedly.

I keep wondering who is filming this for CSPAN, them?

[Apocalipstic]

So manipulative.

Someone with hands and most of face blown off to pray.

[Apocalipstic]

Hideous.

A hideous, manipulative revival meeting

I feel sick, in my bubble I don't always realize that nothing has changed. I say I do....but when I see it it seems too much to wrap my brain around.

I guess I will get back to laundry. I have not said a millionth of what I was thinking...but if you do read, thank you for helping me be able to watch this thing.

and.

Please vote.

[Apocalipstic]

I thought it was over..

Joe D Messina. America the Beautiful.

[Linus]

I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

[Rockinonahigh]

In this day and age I should think people whoul have more smarts than to fall for the snake oil side show they put on,but I gess if a rable rouser can holler enough loud enough...somebody will show up to see what its all about.

[Corkey]

I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I wonder how many people actually believe this shit?

depending on who asks, how they ask and what they ask........somewhere between 25-35% of white folks in this country.......it's been that way ever since I have followed politics..........the last time this happened it was over the 'Godless communists' with Senator Joe McCarthy

that said..........the 'God sent me to do this' thing is getting truly truly scary.....really scary...this just seems really different............the lies keep being repeated and the media reports it like fact.......truth is a lie and the lie is the truth....so the media says.........

[Ebon]

I can't wait to see what the Daily Show has to say about this whole thing.

[theoddz]

I think that, since times are so tough now with unemployment, scaled back social services, people who have fallen on hard times find solace in religion. Who was it, Karl Marx who said that "Religion is the opium of the people."??

Oh, okay, here's the quote:

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." -- Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

~Theo~

[Nat]

These people scare the crap out of me. I didn't watch. Beck grosses me out. Palin too - in a different way. I don't blame religion. I blame human nature. Human pack behavior. Human gullibility. Human brain-laziness. Human lack of compassion. Etc.

[Nat]

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Toughy

depending on who asks, how they ask and what they ask........somewhere between 25-35% of white folks in this country.......it's been that way ever since I have followed politics..........the last time this happened it was over the 'Godless communists' with Senator Joe McCarthy

that said..........the 'God sent me to do this' thing is getting truly truly scary.....really scary...this just seems really different............the lies keep being repeated and the media reports it like fact.......truth is a lie and the lie is the truth....so the media says.........

I grew up with "god told me to" how does one argue with that which makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Organicbutch

I can't wait to see what the Daily Show has to say about this whole thing.

I know...I am eat up. I can
t wait! We are taping them...Colbert too and Oberman and Rachel.

Originally Posted by theoddz

I think that, since times are so tough now with unemployment, scaled back social services, people who have fallen on hard times find solace in religion. Who was it, Karl Marx who said that "Religion is the opium of the people."??

Oh, okay, here's the quote:

"Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." -- Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

~Theo~

True and SCARY.
I don't agree with the part about abolishing religion to make people happy...but otherwise, I agree with Marx...Yes, I lean very far to the left, but stop at the forcing people to give it up.

Originally Posted by Nat

These people scare the crap out of me. I didn't watch. Beck grosses me out. Palin too - in a different way. I don't blame religion. I blame human nature. Human pack behavior. Human gullibility. Human brain-laziness. Human lack of compassion. Etc.

Cynthia was watching, so I watched with her.

I agree that everything falls apart when people are involved. Human nature freaks me out.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Nat

lmaooooooooooooooooo

"you know where you are"

really????

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Corkey

I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

We drank 2 pots of coffee and yelled at the TV together.

[theoddz]

Oh, I wasn't trying to state that I thought religion out to be abolished. I don't believe that, but I do agree with Marx that people, as a group, tend to gravitate more to it during hard times.

We're living in terribly difficult times now. People are clinging to whatever gives them hope and religion has often filled that need. It gives solace, but at the same time, there's enough double-talk and room for interpretation in various religious scriptures to give people with lost hope plenty of license to blame or condemn others.

One of the big reasons that Hitler was so able to "hypnotize" the masses was that, after the defeat they suffered in WW1, the German people were demoralized and their country, particularly the economy, was in shambles. In this case, Hitler was able to utilize Nationalism as a tool to garner support for his extremist and evil goals. We're seeing that again, like yesterday's Beck Rally....emotionalism hyped up by appealing to the conservative American's sense of national pride, patriotism and religious convictions. Same thing happened in Nazi Germany.

I think this is what I find so squicky/scary. Yes, it is "pack mentality"....at its worst and most dangerous.

~Theo~

[waxnrope]

Originally Posted by Linus

I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

That's just it. There's no depth, no real concrete anything. This was the way of Palin's failed journey. Witless platitudes served upon a platter of whiteness, distortions, and a reconstructed(for their own aims) G-d. When it is over, all one can utter, really, is, huh?