Beck and Palin

[Linus]

I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

[Rockinonahigh]

In this day and age I should think people whoul have more smarts than to fall for the snake oil side show they put on,but I gess if a rable rouser can holler enough loud enough...somebody will show up to see what its all about.

[Corkey]

I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Corkey

I couldn't watch, my blood pressure would have hit the roof, and I needn't be yelling at the TV it only upsets my wife.

We drank 2 pots of coffee and yelled at the TV together.

[waxnrope]

Originally Posted by Linus

I think the final count came to about 70-75,000 (from what I've read at a variety of places). That said, I'm still not sure what the event was about.

It wasn't political.

It wasn't really religious.

I've been thinking about this and it feels like something a parent would do to tell you what you need to do in life.

It feels like an admonishment.

That's just it. There's no depth, no real concrete anything. This was the way of Palin's failed journey. Witless platitudes served upon a platter of whiteness, distortions, and a reconstructed(for their own aims) G-d. When it is over, all one can utter, really, is, huh?

[Apocalipstic]

I thought it did seem pretty religious, and politcal.

The points made seemed to be anti women, abortion, taxes, government social programs and more.

It read like a church service.

I agree Theo about what happened in Germany between the world wars. People get scared and they turn on each other like we are seeing now.

For example the anti Islamic thing now...equipment being used to build a Mosque in Mufreesboro, TN (30 minutes from here) was caught on fire yesterday.

Its like we have to have someone to target with our hateful fear.

[waxnrope]

It may have read to you like your experience of church services.*I* feel that we must be careful lumping all religious customs and beliefs in one basket, just as some POC do not lump all white people as predatory, colonizing asshats.

We are lead now to be polarized. Power will use whatever works to attain its ends. Do the corporate structures, operating behind the scenes in the media and elsewhere, do they really give a rat's behind about G-d, or anything having to do with a deeply considered ethos? What approach has been most successful in changing the minds of people? Truth? Or fear of the Other? What makes the other distinct? Since at least Newt Gingrich, we have come to politics with a posse mentality. The nation has succumbed to being whipped up into a frenzy by those in the background who play us like a seasoned lover. There is no reasoned discourse taking place within this circus of the absurd.

Those "religious" or, better, those who profess a religion, struggle with how to counter this insanity. We have been trained to counter Prop 8 when dealing with the media. When our churches, synagogues, and mosques are picketed by the religious right, we run to support and give voice to the media. The media ignores us too. We are crying out to counter what is being done in our name. There are few ears to hear.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by waxnrope

It may have read to you like your experience of church services.*I* feel that we must be careful lumping all religious customs and beliefs in one basket, just as some POC do not lump all white people as predatory, colonizing asshats.

We are lead now to be polarized. Power will use whatever works to attain its ends. Do the corporate structures, operating behind the scenes in the media and elsewhere, do they really give a rat's behind about G-d, or anything having to do with a deeply considered ethos? What approach has been most successful in changing the minds of people? Truth? Or fear of the Other? What makes the other distinct? Since at least Newt Gingrich, we have come to politics with a posse mentality. The nation has succumbed to being whipped up into a frenzy by those in the background who play us like a seasoned lover. There is no reasoned discourse taking place within this circus of the absurd.

Those "religious" or, better, those who profess a religion, struggle with how to counter this insanity. We have been trained to counter Prop 8 when dealing with the media. When our churches, synagogues, and mosques are picketed by the religious right, we run to support and give voice to the media. The media ignores us too. We are crying out to counter what is being done in our name. There are few ears to hear.

Fair enough, I am maybe a wee bit bitter about evangelical right wing conservative denominations, which do not, I agree, represent all religions in any way.

I did not mean to imply that all religions are bad or that everyone religious thinks the same way Glen Beck does!...Just that he read to me as religious. A small segment (I hope) of "religious"...but the show? event? service? was filled with prayer, Bible reading and mention of God and Jesus and Christians and Jews...which *to me* seems pretty religious.

I agree 100% that most of this is being created by the media. Prime example is the fact that both Palin and Beck are on Fox's payroll.

So I am going to add media driven in addition to religious and polical.

Not saying everyone in the media, or who is in politics or is religious....Palin and Beck only. I know there are religious people out there who are as horrified as I am.