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Originally Posted by Dylan

And not just penetration. Lately it seems like anything less than stone equals 'less than'

Exactly! And Fuck That. (God, I love to say Fuck That about things I don't like.)

I remember -very- clearly a conversation on the boards at the other site, where some (annoying) Femme was all up in arms about how penetration "emasculates" a Butch - that was her explanation as to why she was a "stonefemme". Fuck That. I kept saying over and over again that her statement implied that she thinks that Butches who -do- like to have their "down there's" played with are less than authentic Butches. And do you know what? SHE AGREED THAT THAT WAS WHAT SHE THOUGHT and tried to defend that it was accurate.

I was so pissed. I'm still so pissed. God, had she said that she simply didn't like to do it because she thinks that the stuff between her lover's legs was icky..I would have been less pissed off than what I was. (Although, that would have pissed me off too.)

On that same coin / opposite side - what the fresh fuck is it with Femmes who partner with Stone Butches being called "High Femmes"? I'm not liking that particular insinuation of hierarchy. So because I like to do all sorts of things to my lover's "down there" (hee hee, I am refusing to say vagina!) I am less/low Femme. Again - Fuck That.

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

What is that about their (butch/female and male dependent) identities that make for the most heated (and most interesting!) conversations when femme threads do not get half the attention?

No idea. But your observation is spot on.

Originally Posted by apretty

don't get me started on how stone doesn't even exist.

Pretty lady, one day you can tell me alllllll about it over coffee. Mwah!