Butch/Femme Dynamic vs "Masculinity" and "Femininity"

SelfMadeMan · 10-19-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

Masculinity does not equal male. Not in queer circles it doesn't. I believe that women who claim masculinity as part of themselves expand the possibilities of what women are and can be and that is very liberating to me.

YES!!! I believe that a woman can be as as masculine as they choose with NO boundaries on what that means to them, and not have their gender ID called in to question!

Nice to 'see' you again by the way

BullDog · 10-19-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan

YES!!! I believe that a woman can be as as masculine as they choose with NO boundaries on what that means to them, and not have their gender ID called in to question!

Nice to 'see' you again by the way

Thanks Mike, absolutely! It's great to see you again too.

The_Lady_Snow · 10-19-2011, 03:24 PM

Day, I don't mind dissing the way my parents were brought up, it's oppressive, depressing and so damn heteronormative that it took years for them to even get the gay wasn't going away. Me dissing how they think things should be when it comes to gender doesn't take away my love for them or how I feel about them. I have come to a place in my life I don't placate to their bullshit, I am outspoken even with them it's very few the special pass they get.

*Anya* · 10-19-2011, 03:30 PM

I may not be able to define the masculine butch woman but I sure know her when I see and *feel* her-when I get that electric charge!

Conversely, the same with my femme sisters- minus the electric charge, of course

PumaJ · 10-26-2011, 09:30 PM

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Just for clarification... here's some of what *I* believe:

You can be born biologically female and ID as male and deserve to be respected as such (with or without medical intervention) and vice versa

You can be male or female (biologically or not) and be butch, or femme, or masculine or androgynous - or any other label that works for YOU, or REFUSE to be labeled - regardless of what anyone else thinks or assumes

You can be butch and wear make-up, wear anything that you choose - ANYTHING and still be butch and be respected as such.

You can be femme and wear jeans and steel toe boots and t-shirts, or ANYTHING else you choose and still be femme and respected as such.

You can be/do YOU - any way YOU choose, and not have to pick a label - just be YOU.

If you are TG and don't want to take hormones, and don't want to have your breasts removed, you are no less TG.

I believe everyone has the right to ID however they choose and say THIS is who I am - and not have to justify their identity to anyone. Period.

Hear, hear, SelfMadeMan

Kätzchen · 10-11-2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by *Anya*

I may not be able to define the masculine butch woman but I sure know her when I see and *feel* her-when I get that electric charge!

Conversely, the same with my femme sisters- minus the electric charge, of course

I can totally relate to this, Anya.....

recently a special someone (butch) told me that I was electrifying to them....which they have the same effect on me.

That... electrifying exchange of power between an butch and a femme.... it's very real.

cathexis · 10-11-2017, 10:14 PM

That electrifying energy is what I refer to as Alpha energy. It is a self confidence that can momentarily cause people in a room to look towards the door they're walking in.

Sometimes, their aura seems as big as an elephant. It spreads out, filling space. Is this the energy you're writing of?

My Partner is a Butch with this type of aura.

DapperButch · 10-12-2017, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kätzchen

I can totally relate to this, Anya.....

recently a special someone (butch) told me that I was electrifying to them....which they have the same effect on me.

That... electrifying exchange of power between an butch and a femme.... it's very real.

Yep, no two ways about it. That butch-femme energy is amazing and very VERY distinct.

I am loving all these bumped gender threads!

10-19-2011, 03:24 PM	#3
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,077 Times in 15,670 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	Oh Dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Day, I don't mind dissing the way my parents were brought up, it's oppressive, depressing and so damn heteronormative that it took years for them to even get the gay wasn't going away. Me dissing how they think things should be when it comes to gender doesn't take away my love for them or how I feel about them. I have come to a place in my life I don't placate to their bullshit, I am outspoken even with them it's very few the special pass they get. __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

10-19-2011, 03:30 PM	#4
Anya Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Lesbian non-stone femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, her Relationship Status: Committed to being good to myself Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Coast Posts: 8,258 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 39,306 Thanked 40,447 Times in 7,284 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	I may not be able to define the masculine butch woman but I sure know her when I see and feel her-when I get that electric charge! Conversely, the same with my femme sisters- minus the electric charge, of course __________________ ~Anya~ Democracy Dies in Darkness ~Washington Post "...I'm deeply concerned by recently adopted policies which punish children for their parents’ actions ... The thought that any State would seek to deter parents by inflicting such abuse on children is unconscionable." UN Human Rights commissioner

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10-11-2017, 10:14 PM	#7
cathexis Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Trotskyist, Anarcho-syndicalist Preferred Pronoun?: They, Them, Their, Sir Bitch Relationship Status: open Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Great White North! Posts: 4,332 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 16,812 Thanked 4,706 Times in 1,604 Posts Rep Power: 21474849	That electrifying energy is what I refer to as Alpha energy. It is a self confidence that can momentarily cause people in a room to look towards the door they're walking in. Sometimes, their aura seems as big as an elephant. It spreads out, filling space. Is this the energy you're writing of? My Partner is a Butch with this type of aura.