Small Plane Crashes in Austin Tx

[Daywalker]

Sorry folks, I got in late last night and just got up.


Thanks for removing the post/s.

Didn't mean to draw icky FBI eyeballs.


Carry on.

[wolfwalker]

and the sheep march on.

what about the 6000 plus soldiers dead.plus all those who will never return to a normal life. who come home from war and end up homeless and uncared for? hmmmmm anyone out there trying to stop wars that make no sense?

amazing, just simply amazing.

you all believe every detail put out there by a govt. known to lie,cheat and steal from their people.

also amazing how quickly people will jump on and defend people from other countries taking action against their govt. but when an american does it. its home grown terrorism.

you all need to open your eyes and start looking at whats going on right here in this country. but you won't do that till the govt. can no longer keep you afloat and docile. when shit starts breaking down and you are affected. long as they keep you fat and happy, yup its homegrown terrorism. till you are the one getting fucked over. then you too will become a home grown terrorist.

but you won;t call it that then, then it will be about you and your families survival.

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

and the sheep march on.

what about the 6000 plus soldiers dead.plus all those who will never return to a normal life. who come home from war and end up homeless and uncared for? hmmmmm anyone out there trying to stop wars that make no sense?

amazing, just simply amazing.

you all believe every detail put out there by a govt. known to lie,cheat and steal from their people.

also amazing how quickly people will jump on and defend people from other countries taking action against their govt. but when an american does it. its home grown terrorism.

you all need to open your eyes and start looking at whats going on right here in this country. but you won't do that till the govt. can no longer keep you afloat and docile. when shit starts breaking down and you are affected. long as they keep you fat and happy, yup its homegrown terrorism. till you are the one getting fucked over. then you too will become a home grown terrorist.

but you won;t call it that then, then it will be about you and your families survival.

There is nothing.....and I mean NOTHING that can justify what this asswipe did.

Come on!!! Killing innocent people because you're pissed at the gov't. No excuse in the world for that. EVER!!

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by ~Bo

Come on!!! Killing innocent people because you're pissed at the gov't. No excuse in the world for that. EVER!!

Aren't we doing this right now?

In Iraq, Afghanistan, and covertly in other places in the world?

Didn't we do this in Libya, Israel, India, Guatemala, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, Palestinian terretories, Iran, Syria, Germany, Russia, well...just name a country besides England and maybe Canada


Dylan

[Diavolo]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Aren't we doing this right now?

In Iraq, Afghanistan, and covertly in other places in the world?

Didn't we do this in Libya, Israel, India, Guatemala, Colombia, Venezuela, Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, Palestinian terretories, Iran, Syria, Germany, Russia, well...just name a country besides England and maybe Canada


Dylan

It's wrong to kill innocent people here and it's wrong to kill them in other countries. At no point is the person who perpetrates such a crime "brave" or "a hero". Unfortunately a certain portion of this country watches a supposedly fair and balanced bunch of clowns fabricating news events every day. Their leaders seem to be a racist bigoted radio announcer and a deranged television host who sounds more like a 8 year old cry baby than anything else. According to those guys it's everybody's fault but our own for our own circumstance. It's the communists. It's the terrorists. It's the liberal media. It's the Muslims. It's the Hollywood actors. I heard Glenn Beck blame Tim freaking Robbins the other day. As long as we propagate hate and fail to embrace responsibility we will continue down this path. That includes taking responsibility for Blackwater and every one of those criminals going to jail for their crimes. That means rogue service personnel being held responsible for their actions. That means CIA and FBI operatives being held responsible for their actions and that means the politicians and bureaucrats that authorize that sort of behavior being held accountable for it.

That being said, I believe the Obama Administration had an amazing chance to hold a lot of criminals accountable for their actions and pussed out. I think Dick Cheney is a war criminal, I think John Yoo is a war criminal and I think Donald Rumsfeld is a war criminal. And that's just the short list.

[Diva]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

and the sheep march on.

what about the 6000 plus soldiers dead.plus all those who will never return to a normal life. who come home from war and end up homeless and uncared for? hmmmmm anyone out there trying to stop wars that make no sense?

amazing, just simply amazing.

you all believe every detail put out there by a govt. known to lie,cheat and steal from their people.

also amazing how quickly people will jump on and defend people from other countries taking action against their govt. but when an american does it. its home grown terrorism.

you all need to open your eyes and start looking at whats going on right here in this country. but you won't do that till the govt. can no longer keep you afloat and docile. when shit starts breaking down and you are affected. long as they keep you fat and happy, yup its homegrown terrorism. till you are the one getting fucked over. then you too will become a home grown terrorist.

but you won;t call it that then, then it will be about you and your families survival.

You don't, by any chance, own a plane, do you?

[Goofy]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

and the sheep march on.

what about the 6000 plus soldiers dead.plus all those who will never return to a normal life. who come home from war and end up homeless and uncared for? hmmmmm anyone out there trying to stop wars that make no sense?

amazing, just simply amazing.

you all believe every detail put out there by a govt. known to lie,cheat and steal from their people.

also amazing how quickly people will jump on and defend people from other countries taking action against their govt. but when an american does it. its home grown terrorism.

you all need to open your eyes and start looking at whats going on right here in this country. but you won't do that till the govt. can no longer keep you afloat and docile. when shit starts breaking down and you are affected. long as they keep you fat and happy, yup its homegrown terrorism. till you are the one getting fucked over. then you too will become a home grown terrorist.

but you won;t call it that then, then it will be about you and your families survival.

Nothing about my family's survival will EVER involve killing innocent people. NOTHING. Sorry, not my way of getting things done.

And nothing you can say will convince me that this guy was a "brave American". He was a C O W A R D

So I guess the only thing left to do is to put my sheep suit on the next time I walk out my door. I don't like to wear it in the house because I'm so fat and happy that the dogs think I'm dinner.

Baaaaaa

[blush]

Originally Posted by Goofy

Nothing about my family's survival will EVER involve killing innocent people. NOTHING. Sorry, not my way of getting things done.

And nothing you can say will convince me that this guy was a "brave American". He was a C O W A R D

So I guess the only thing left to do is to put my sheep suit on the next time I walk out my door. I don't like to wear it in the house because I'm so fat and happy that the dogs think I'm dinner.

Baaaaaa

coughblacksheepcough

[wolfwalker]

Originally Posted by Goofy

Nothing about my family's survival will EVER involve killing innocent people. NOTHING. Sorry, not my way of getting things done.

And nothing you can say will convince me that this guy was a "brave American". He was a C O W A R D

So I guess the only thing left to do is to put my sheep suit on the next time I walk out my door. I don't like to wear it in the house because I'm so fat and happy that the dogs think I'm dinner.

Baaaaaa

oh really? tell me what you are going to do when there is no food left in the stores because of some disaster and people are coming down your driveway, intent on killing you and your family for what you have left?

going to just invite them in for tea and cookies?

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

oh really? tell me what you are going to do when there is no food left in the stores because of some disaster and people are coming down your driveway, intent on killing you and your family for what you have left?

going to just invite them in for tea and cookies?

I guess we'll have to get a plane and fly it into a building and kill a bunch of people. Right?
That'll solve the problem.

[Sachita]

As it has been with most of my life I sit on a fence with this. I'm between liberal hippy and conservative bitch most likely caught in a bureaucratic trap most of us are in. Sheeple (is that right?) is exactly what we are.

Our government is the worse terrorist of all. Our entire civilization has been erected from slaughtering and abusing natives and other people in the name of some fucked up system that's soul agenda is to control us. We can celebrate a fucked up LIE called history and support a system that has literally abused us but damn the one individual that reacts.

I don't agree with any act of violence but I can damn sure see why he did what he did. The thought, I am sure has crossed many a mind. He was just willing to trade his life for it. Not something many of us would consider. No, I don't think he was a coward. I think he snapped and just had enough.

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Sachita

As it has been with most of my life I sit on a fence with this. I'm between liberal hippy and conservative bitch most likely caught in a bureaucratic trap most of us are in. Sheeple (is that right?) is exactly what we are.

Our government is the worse terrorist of all. Our entire civilization has been erected from slaughtering and abusing natives and other people in the name of some fucked up system that's soul agenda is to control us. We can celebrate a fucked up LIE called history and support a system that has literally abused us but damn the one individual that reacts.

I don't agree with any act of violence but I can damn sure see why he did what he did. The thought, I am sure has crossed many a mind. He was just willing to trade his life for it. Not something many of us would consider. No, I don't think he was a coward. I think he snapped and just had enough.

I think he was willing to trade ALOT of people's lives for it. Do you seriously believe he thought he'd be the only one to die??? You gotta be kidding me.
That whole fucking building could've exploded.

I truly can not fathom you people and your rationale.

*shakes head*

[wolfwalker]

Originally Posted by ~Bo

I guess we'll have to get a plane and fly it into a building and kill a bunch of people. Right?
That'll solve the problem.

lets keep facts straight. he did not kill a bunch of people. other then himself there is 1 dead, 1 injured

[Diavolo]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

lets keep facts straight. he did not kill a bunch of people. other then himself there is 1 dead, 1 injured

Dude. Seriously?

His intent was to do a lot more damage than he did. You can read his manifesto until the end of time. Murder and mayhem. I cannot believe that you and any one else for that matter is defending murder and mayhem. I'd recommend a reality check.

[T D]

I don't think what this person did was in any way a good thing. I don't think he's a hero, but I don't think he's a coward either. I think he was sick, yes SICK, and this is just one more example of how the U. S. is NOT taking care of its own. Of course it was his responsibility to seek out help, and who knows if he did or not, but none-the-less, no one in their right mind does chit like this, and I have NO doubt that the pressure on him was more than he could handle, for whatever reasons. We're all different.

Unless any of us has been so depressed, fed up, and out of control that we've actually crossed that line between fantasy and reality we have NO idea what really went on for this guy. Causing harm to our self or anyone else is never a good thing to do, but it does happen, and it sometimes happens to what appears to be "perfectly normal people". It could happen to any one of us during our lifetime.

I personally find all of these judgments disheartening. It's a VERY, VERY SAD and traumatic situation for a whole lot of people, including the guy who torched his own house and flew his airplane into that building, and all of his family.

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

lets keep facts straight. he did not kill a bunch of people. other then himself there is 1 dead, 1 injured

Ohhhhhh.....ok. One dead is ok. Got it now.

You scare me!

[blush]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

and the sheep march on.

what about the 6000 plus soldiers dead.plus all those who will never return to a normal life. who come home from war and end up homeless and uncared for? hmmmmm anyone out there trying to stop wars that make no sense?

amazing, just simply amazing.

you all believe every detail put out there by a govt. known to lie,cheat and steal from their people.

also amazing how quickly people will jump on and defend people from other countries taking action against their govt. but when an american does it. its home grown terrorism.

you all need to open your eyes and start looking at whats going on right here in this country. but you won't do that till the govt. can no longer keep you afloat and docile. when shit starts breaking down and you are affected. long as they keep you fat and happy, yup its homegrown terrorism. till you are the one getting fucked over. then you too will become a home grown terrorist.

but you won;t call it that then, then it will be about you and your families survival.

I'm done with you. Perhaps it is because this is my hometown. Perhaps it is because it happened minutes from my child's school.

This is not about what the government did or did not do to him. This is about handling it like a grown ass adult and not taking it out on defenseless, innocent people who have a reasonable expectation that they can go to work and not have a plane intentionally rammed into their building.

Fat and happy? Didn't he have a private plane? He sounds pretty fat and happy and white to me.

You, however, are baiting this thread with your nonsense.

[wolfwalker]

Originally Posted by blush

I'm done with you. Perhaps it is because this is my hometown. Perhaps it is because it happened minutes from my child's school.

This is not about what the government did or did not do to him. This is about handling it like a grown ass adult and not taking it out on defenseless, innocent people who have a reasonable expectation that they can go to work and not have a plane intentionally rammed into their building.

Fat and happy? Didn't he have a private plane? He sounds pretty fat and happy and white to me.

You, however, are baiting this thread with your nonsense.

baiting??? hardly. I am speaking what i know to be true.oh wqait, thats right if someone does not agree with you. its baiting. remember the first amendment?

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by wolfwalker

baiting??? hardly. I am speaking what i know to be true.oh wqait, thats right if someone does not agree with you. its baiting. remember the first amendment?

OK. So let me get this straight. You believe what this ass did was ok? And you believe it was ok because he was pissed at the US Gov't.

And are you saying that you would do the same thing if you got made enough? Cause that's what it's sounding like to me.

I wonder if you'd feel ok about this if it was YOUR family member who was one of his victims.

[wolfwalker]

Originally Posted by ~Bo

OK. So let me get this straight. You believe what this ass did was ok? And you believe it was ok because he was pissed at the US Gov't.

And are you saying that you would do the same thing if you got made enough? Cause that's what it's sounding like to me.

I wonder if you'd feel ok about this if it was YOUR family member who was one of his victims.

my family members have been victims of violence. my mother was shot and killed in front of me when i was 4 yrs. old. my father being a police officer was shot and almost died protecting the citizens of this country. he also fought in ww2. i have family members who were killed and some injuried doing their jobs.

that being said, i did not act out in violence as a result. any more questions?