Law and Order: SVU with Special Guest Kathy Griffin as lesbian

Rook · 02-27-2010, 07:20 PM

It's kind of touchy to have a gay/lesbian portray a gay character on primetime...
Ask Ellen...
btw..

B.D. Wong portrays a gay Psychiatrist on Law & Order {Dr. Huang}...
If I understand his pvt life correctly..
He's openly gay in real-life

David Hyde Pierce came out Recently, in support related to Prop 8.. He portrayed Niles Crane on Frasier, a neurotic Hetero psychiatrist constantly the butt of jokes regarding his true sexuality...

Neil Patrick Harris JR, portrays a Promiscuous heterosexual Womanizer on "How I met your Mother"

Wanda Sykes recently came out, for the same reason as David, she's one of the couples that married before Prop 8 passed...

The list can keep growing...
But, I dont think that's the point...

Tom Hanks portrayed an AIDS-afflicted Lawyer.. Was he belittling the character? Nope..On the contrary.. He created a much more mainstream Awareness...

So did Hillary Swank as Brandon Teena

And Sean Penn as Harvey Milk

Each one recieving a well deserved Acadamy Award...Each giving credit to their Character, and our Struggle for awareness/Equality

suebee · 02-27-2010, 07:42 PM

Let's not forget T.D. Knight, a gay actor who portrayed George, a heterosexual doctor on Grey's Anatomy. Although he was completely out in his private life, his sexuality became mainstream news when one of his cooworkers, Issah Washington got into fight with one of the other actors on the set of the show over Washington's use of the "f" word to characterize Knight. Washington was subsequently dropped from the hit show. He didn't help his cause when he repeatedly tried to justify his used of the "f" word, saying that where he grew up it meant "weak" (oh, and here we thought you we being insulting! WTF?). I saw him and his wife doing the "some of our best friends are gay" routine on a couple of interviews.

Yup. We need more mainstream gay and lesbian characters on television and in the movies.

Has anyone noticed that the last couple of times that Kathy Bates has played a secondary role in a movie her character has been lesbian - and her orientation played no part at all in the plot. Just like a "normal" person!

Gemme · 02-27-2010, 08:04 PM

What night is this airing? My memory is pretty much shot now.

Soft*Silver · 03-01-2010, 02:56 PM

NBC, Wed, Mar 3 9:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemme

What night is this airing? My memory is pretty much shot now.

Hudson · 02-27-2010, 08:20 PM

Jesus, that clip sounds and looks like it was written by the
National Organization for Marriage, the makers of the
'Gathering Storm' ads. People will tune in just to see if Kathy
Griffin gets her toaster.

Jess · 03-02-2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersuebee

Let's not forget T.D. Knight, a gay actor who portrayed George, a heterosexual doctor on Grey's Anatomy. Although he was completely out in his private life, his sexuality became mainstream news when one of his cooworkers, Issah Washington got into fight with one of the other actors on the set of the show over Washington's use of the "f" word to characterize Knight. Washington was subsequently dropped from the hit show. He didn't help his cause when he repeatedly tried to justify his used of the "f" word, saying that where he grew up it meant "weak" (oh, and here we thought you we being insulting! WTF?). I saw him and his wife doing the "some of our best friends are gay" routine on a couple of interviews.

Yup. We need more mainstream gay and lesbian characters on television and in the movies.

Has anyone noticed that the last couple of times that Kathy Bates has played a secondary role in a movie her character has been lesbian - and her orientation played no part at all in the plot. Just like a "normal" person!

I tend to get very happy when I see characters in film ( especially major Hollywood flicks) like this. We just watched The Stepfather, a bad film I don't really recommend, and there was a lesbian couple as part of the cast of characters. No major focal point and no overt manner of portraying them as "lesbians". No big sex scene made for men. Just subtle everyday interactions that made it clear they were a couple.

I like when we queer folk are portrayed as "just normal". Not the main story, not overdone. Just real.

I wasn't thrilled with the clip of L&O. Not a huge fan of Kathy G nor her style of "acting". I don't see where having "Olivia" come out as a lesbian would "add" to her character on the show. She is a strong woman fighting the good fight. That is enough for me.

As for the argument that having major "gay" actors portraying gay figures would automatically add to the gay community monetarily, I find that awfully presumptuous. While I also get a great thrill personally every time someone very public "comes out", I do not automatically assume they will become a spokesperson or fund gatherer for "our cause". Some may contribute back, some may not. They are only human. It should not be an assumption in my opinion.

Jess · 03-03-2010, 06:35 PM

BUMP..

So, good , bad or otherwise it comes on tonight. It is always interesting to see how the queers will be portrayed on prime time.

Cyclopea · 03-03-2010, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess

BUMP..

So, good , bad or otherwise it comes on tonight. It is always interesting to see how the queers will be portrayed on prime time.

According to my TV listings it's a TWO HOUR show. Is that right? That's a heck of a time commitment just to see how (if) they edited the homophobic parts. Not sure I can last two hours, lol.

Here's a much hotter gay kiss from an SVU'er to tide us over...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMzODwI6oiA"]YouTube- Beecher & Keller - You are my high[/ame]

Jess · 03-03-2010, 07:08 PM

LOL.. true.. 2 hrs is a bit much when there is a new Criminal Minds on at the same time.. I'll have to record one so I can watch both.

02-27-2010, 07:20 PM	#1
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Jess Timed Out - Permanent How Do You Identify?: decidedly indifferent Preferred Pronoun?: other Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Patrick Springs, VA Posts: 2,812 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,247 Thanked 5,700 Times in 1,682 Posts Rep Power: 0	LOL.. true.. 2 hrs is a bit much when there is a new Criminal Minds on at the same time.. I'll have to record one so I can watch both.