Men with boobs.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by betenoire

It's totally none of my business, but I would be interested to hear what differences you're talking about.

However, I still don't think that speaks to men and women being inherently different. I think it speaks to you being a different person on "t" (I presume that's what we're talking about here? we're not besties, so I don't know a whole lot about your life) than you were beforehand. But I'd be willing to bet that some of the things that have changed about you are not necessarily qualities that are inherent in all men. Likewise, I would be willing to bet that there are loads of women who possess these new qualities that you have.

It might be apples and oranges (but I don't think it is - hormones and chemicals hanging out around brain receptors aren't that far off from each other in terms of how they effect our emotional/mental/social make-up) but I'm a different person off of Welbutrin than I am on it. (I am a much better, more stable person OFF it - just for the record. Holy crap that shit did a number on me.)

HEY COOL I found a Canadian Smiley!

And I would still disagree with you.

I used my own experience as one example of countless. I no longer share much of my personal business on these boards, but I wasn't talking 'oh, I feel different...like a whole new person' kind of thing.

I don't quite get your welbutrin analogy, because I'm reading as though it proves what I'm saying. There is plenty of science that backs up what I'm saying when it comes to how testoterone and estrogen affect one's brain/emotions/whatnot.


We Can Agree To Disagree If You Want Tho, Cuz I'm Definitely Not About To Share My Personal Business On These Sites Anymore,
Dylan

[SuperFemme]

if there was indeed no difference, then why would anyone feel they were in the wrong body? because i don't think that is only related to biology, is it?

[Jaques]

BOOBS FEED BABY HUMAN BEINGS..................they are wonderful on all who enjoy them - just not on me!

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by Jaques

BOOBS FEED BABY HUMAN BEINGS..................they are wonderful on all who enjoy them - just not on me!

So I am one of those human beings who had baby humans, my boobs were not used for that purpose, for you see I am not some fucking cow.. I am not defined by the fact I got tits to feed some crumb cruncher.. Now, if anyone else wants to be defined by that, go for it, but not all humans with boobs were made to feed humans..

Do you see how you are defining someone by their breasts?

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

So I am one of those human beings who had baby humans, my boobs were not used for that purpose, for you see I am not some fucking cow.. I am not defined by the fact I got tits to feed some crumb cruncher.. Now, if anyone else wants to be defined by that, go for it, but not all humans with boobs were made to feed humans..

Do you see how you are defining someone by their breasts?

Touche! Right on point! Geezusfuckingchrist!

[Jaques]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

So I am one of those human beings who had baby humans, my boobs were not used for that purpose, for you see I am not some fucking cow.. I am not defined by the fact I got tits to feed some crumb cruncher.. Now, if anyone else wants to be defined by that, go for it, but not all humans with boobs were made to feed humans..

Do you see how you are defining someone by their breasts?

....Indeed you are not a f..ing cow and i dont define anyone by anything; of course it is a matter of choice whether someone feeds their young, but its an anatomical fact that breasts produce milk, whether in animals or humans for the purpose of feeding their young.

[Gayla]

Originally Posted by Jaques

....Indeed you are not a f..ing cow and i dont define anyone by anything; of course it is a matter of choice whether someone feeds their young, but its an anatomical fact that breasts produce milk, whether in animals or humans for the purpose of feeding their young.

So we're back to it's just all about the anatomy?

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by Jaques

....Indeed you are not a f..ing cow and i dont define anyone by anything; of course it is a matter of choice whether someone feeds their young, but its an anatomical fact that breasts produce milk, whether in animals or humans for the purpose of feeding their young.

Mine never did... The nurses were pretty fucking ugly to me, because I would not try, I know my body no milk was coming, just discomfort, someone got me a breast pump, so yes you did define by your statement.

Originally Posted by gayla

So we're back to it's just all about the anatomy?

Who the hell knows

[Jaques]

Originally Posted by gayla

So we're back to it's just all about the anatomy?

breasts ARE part of the anatomy - females, whether animal or human have mamories which produce milk for feeding their young - i see nothing wrong with that, in fact its wonderful as babies benefit enormously from their mothers milk................

[Andrew, Jr.]

What about breast cancer? It is no longer just a women's cancer.

[Jaques]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

What about breast cancer? It is no longer just a women's cancer.

ABSOLETELY......................men can have it too...............in fact, though i have had a double mastectomy, being TG, i had a lump which had to be investigated, turned out to be i'd caused a bruise due to some heavy physical work i'd done, and not noticed it...........luckily!

[SuperFemme]

Can we get back on topic? Seriously?
This is not a thread about breasts and what they can or cannot do.
You are taking away from a great conversation with this ridiculousness.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

if there was indeed no difference, then why would anyone feel they were in the wrong body? because i don't think that is only related to biology, is it?

This is an interesting question to me. Both from a biological and social perspective (the old nature-nurture duality). There is no way I can give an answer because I have never felt I was in the wrong body even though I often felt just plain wrong growing up. Just not the right kind of girl, but a girl nonetheless. If I didn't have the parents I did, I don't know if I would have worked through this with a positive self-image. In my family there was room for different kinds of females and my two sisters and me actually covered quite a spectrum.

Although, I believe I have an other or perhaps a conglomorate gender, yet not inter-gendered in many ways, but am female at the core (don't know if this makes sense, or not). What is masculine in me is just female masculinity as I experience it. This isn't so for others.

I hope some TG/IG folks will comment. Or, is this moving outside of the thread intent? Dunno, there are so many issues being brought up.