Presidential Slugfest 2016 - Debate Watch Party!

[C0LLETTE]

The pundits were complaining that HRC did not deliver a knockout blow.

Well, here's a suggestion.

The next time he refers to those horrid comments as just "locker room talk", HRC needs to turn to him and simply ask "Is publicly discussing your daughter's breasts and references to her as a "fine piece of ass" also just locker room talk"

I do not believe there is any conceivable defence Trump can make that will not nauseate voters...even in his base.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

The pundits were complaining that HRC did not deliver a knockout blow.

Well, here's a suggestion.

The next time he refers to those horrid comments as just "locker room talk", HRC needs to turn to him and simply ask "Is publicly discussing your daughter's breasts and references to her as a "fine piece of ass" also just locker room talk"

I do not believe there is any conceivable defence Trump can make that will not nauseate voters...even in his base.

Hillary Clintin walks a fine line here. Hillary is a woman who fights for women, children and families...I think it would be the end of her campaign if it appears that she is using his children against him.

Sad as it is, Hillary is held to COMPLETELY different standards due to her gender.

But this is just my opinion.

[Glenn]

2nd Debate= Whatever..at the end of the day, she will get the silent minority vote and win.

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

Hillary Clintin walks a fine line here. Hillary is a woman who fights for women, children and families...I think it would be the end of her campaign if it appears that she is using his children against him.

Sad as it is, Hillary is held to COMPLETELY different standards due to her gender.

But this is just my opinion.

She wouldn't be using his children against him. She would be exposing his ugly core. She isn't attacking his children she is exposing that his attitudes towards women extend even to sexualising his children.
She doesn't have to say it but her surrogates can....and I doubt anyone hearing it would conclude "poor Donald" look how she is pointing to how he talks about his daughter.

You really think people would turn away from her for pointing out what an abusive perverse parent he is?
And there are lots of indirect ways to make those references. That's why they have "surrogates".

[C0LLETTE]

I guess I just get tired of opponents taking slams from Trump and not slamming back. His primary opponents know how effective that was. He won.

I see no reason why HRC needs to back away from Trump's assessment of her as a "fighter".

She needs to slam him and slam him good . I think a lot of women ( and men) would like to see him on his ass and WHY WHY should she be afraid of offending his voters cause EVERYONE else already thinks he is a pig. It is time to Toss the Shit Back Into His Face rather than being bullied into backing off from offending HIS voters. I seriously doubt any undecided voters would side with him if her surrogates exposed his ugly comments about his daughter....

Think about it: yeah he said those horrid things about his daughter but she brought them up...I'm going to vote for him cause what she did is terrible. Hey and yeah, his daughter does have great "tits and ass". Go Donald.

[kittygrrl]

Apparently it was Trump's intention to seat the four women accusing Bill Clinton of sexual assault in the VIP box. This was blocked by the co-chairman of the debate committee Frank Fahrenkopf Jr., who told Trump if he tried to seat those women in that box he would have security remove them. Thank goddess someone who has no problem telling Trump no. A fait accompli-

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

She wouldn't be using his children against him. She would be exposing his ugly core. She isn't attacking his children she is exposing that his attitudes towards women extend even to sexualising his children.
She doesn't have to say it but her surrogates can....and I doubt anyone hearing it would conclude "poor Donald" look how she is pointing to how he talks about his daughter.

You really think people would turn away from her for pointing out what an abusive perverse parent he is?
And there are lots of indirect ways to make those references. That's why they have "surrogates".

You need to read what I said without implying anything else.

I said SHE cannot bring up the issues of him sexualizing his daughter, or ANYTHING negative about his children. That doesn't mean a surrogate can't do it, it just means it cannot come from her mouth.

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

You need to read what I said without implying anything else.

I said SHE cannot bring up the issues of him sexualizing his daughter, or ANYTHING negative about his children. That doesn't mean a surrogate can't do it, it just means it cannot come from her mouth.

As I hope you know, I like you very much MsTinkerbelly and on the vast majority of issues I agree with you however I do not agree that I "need" to do anything.

You did not refer to her "bringing up" the issue. You said it would be "the end of her campaign" if she appeared to "use it". Having the surrogates refer to it IS using it and, in my opinion, it would be a very good thing.

Personally, I think she'd lose nothing by directly confronting him but if surrogates are more acceptable...have at it. One direct hit right to the middle of his smug lying face wouldn't hurt her a bit.

[MsTinkerbelly]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

As I hope you know, I like you very much MsTinkerbelly and on the vast majority of issues I agree with you however I do not agree that I "need" to do anything.

You did not refer to her "bringing up" the issue. You said it would be "the end of her campaign" if she appeared to "use it". Having the surrogates refer to it IS using it and, in my opinion, it would be a very good thing.

Personally, I think she'd lose nothing by directly confronting him but if surrogates are more acceptable...have at it. One direct hit right to the middle of his smug lying face wouldn't hurt her a bit.

Well, in this, we will have to agree to disagree.

[Soon]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

The pundits were complaining that HRC did not deliver a knockout blow.

Well, here's a suggestion.

The next time he refers to those horrid comments as just "locker room talk", HRC needs to turn to him and simply ask "Is publicly discussing your daughter's breasts and references to her as a "fine piece of ass" also just locker room talk"

I do not believe there is any conceivable defence Trump can make that will not nauseate voters...even in his base.

Yes, to all this.

You make a very good point, Collette; no matter what fucked up things Donald Trump has said or done in the past or present, his core base will NEVER abandon him (it's nauseating thinking about how many millions of Americans are in this group). HRC needs to slam back harder--her base, and maybe some on the fence or that younger generation--might come around to her vote. And get those surrogates to fight in a fiercer fashion. Ana Navarro is the only one I can think off the top of my head who has NO QUALMS about slamming his fuckery down!

[BullDog]

I'm so disgusted I don't even want there to be a third debate at this point, and it's not because I think Clinton will blow her lead or anything like that. That disgusting scumbag does not deserve to be on the same stage as Clinton, and she shouldn't have to put up with his stalker, abusive behavior on stage - all of his lies, threatening to put her jail and worse. Ugh.

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by Soon

Yes, to all this.

You make a very good point, Collette; no matter what fucked up things Donald Trump has said or done in the past or present, his core base will NEVER abandon him (it's nauseating thinking about how many millions of Americans are in this group). HRC needs to slam back harder--her base, and maybe some on the fence or that younger generation--might come around to her vote. And get those surrogates to fight in a fiercer fashion. Ana Navarro is the only one I can think off the top of my head who has NO QUALMS about slamming his fuckery down!

And Ana Novarro is a Republican.

[Soon]

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

And Ana Novarro is a Republican.

I had no idea! She's been going after Trump so hard, I presumed...Thanks for the info!

[BullDog]

Hillary Clinton is of course very privileged and powerful and experiences the world in ways that very few other women ever do, but last night so many women saw her as "every woman" for all the women who have had to listen to being mansplained with a smile, who have had to fight for a job with a man who was clearly much less qualified, who have had to listen to a boss who is a 1,000 times dumber, who have had to cope with being physically bullied, intimidated, threatened and stalked.

See brief article and tweets for how woman after woman saw Hillary Clinton having to put up with similar treatment that they do all the time:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0e655eab5dee8?

[A. Spectre]

Trump vows retaliation as Republicans are abandoning him.

What an incredibly thin-skinned man-baby he is. Well, I can agree with him about the "self righteous hypocrites."

Mitch Mcconnell has no backbone, nor cajones. He refused to denounce Trumps actions and on a side note, he still looks like a turtle. Just not as cute.

Hillary is up double digits according to numerous polls.

Leaked audio is now coming out from "The Apprentice" via Huffpost.

[Lyte]

I know this is common knowledge but... it still makes me a lil smirky smirk to say it... the Republican party is friggin' imploding!!