GOT fans: Who Will Kill Cercei Lannister? Predictions?

[Martina]

I really hope Dany doesn't die, btw. I want to see her and Jon Snow scooched together on the Iron Throne. Second choice is Tyrion although he has no real claim. Gendry does, but I'm not seeing it. Arya would make one scary ass Queen Consort though.

Re the original question, I am thinking Tyrion now, who also dies as a result of the fight with his sister.

I do think we're going to lose Tyrion. I don't think the fans could take losing both Dany AND Tyrion though, so I think she'll survive. And if she survives, she'll rule.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

I really hope Dany doesn't die, btw. I want to see her and Jon Snow scooched together on the Iron Throne. Second choice is Tyrion although he has no real claim. Gendry does, but I'm not seeing it. Arya would make one scary ass Queen Consort though.

Re the original question, I am thinking Tyrion now, who also dies as a result of the fight with his sister.

I do think we're going to lose Tyrion. I don't think the fans could take losing both Dany AND Tyrion though, so I think she'll survive. And if she survives, she'll rule.

I think Tyrion will survive. In the books, there is a sense that he is the main character, in my reading. I think he will be the one we see walking off into the sunset in the last scene, possibly with wife Sansa. Maybe breaking the fourth wall or speaking in voiceover to provide a final frame around everything that has happened

I would not be surprised if Arya dies. She has made her life about vengeance and there would be no place for that spirit in the peacetime world that should be the end result of all this struggle.

Other survival predictions (since we're here)...

Survives:

• Tyrion
• Sansa
• Jon
• Bronn
• Sam

Dies:

• Dany
• Arya
• Jaime
• Cersei
• Brienne
• Bran
• Davos
• The Hound
• Varys

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

I really hope Dany doesn't die, btw. I want to see her and Jon Snow scooched together on the Iron Throne. Second choice is Tyrion although he has no real claim. Gendry does, but I'm not seeing it. Arya would make one scary ass Queen Consort though.

Re the original question, I am thinking Tyrion now, who also dies as a result of the fight with his sister.

I do think we're going to lose Tyrion. I don't think the fans could take losing both Dany AND Tyrion though, so I think she'll survive. And if she survives, she'll rule.

I could see leaving Dany and Jon alive to get married and leave the door open for another series where they are somehow unable to stop themselves from repeating the patterns of Jaime and Cersei, as that incestuous union seems to be the "original sin" of this story. That would fit the moral ambiguity that is the gimmick of these books.

[Martina]

That's true. She is his Aunt.

[Martina]

Why does Varys have to die? He so deserves a reward. He's been right a number of times when most of the characters get most things wrong. Plus he's worked so hard for a just Kingdom. If we end up with that, he ought to share in the outcome. I love him. I loved that exchange when he asked Tyrion why he makes eunich jokes when he is offended by dwarf jokes. So anachronistic, but so funny.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Martina

Why does Varys have to die? He so deserves a reward. He's been right a number of times when most of the characters get most things wrong. Plus he's worked so hard for a just Kingdom. If we end up with that, he ought to share in the outcome. I love him. I loved that exchange when he asked Tyrion why he makes eunich jokes when he is offended by dwarf jokes. So anachronistic, but so funny.

I just think it would be very on-brand for George R.R. Martin.

The thing that makes the series so addictive is that anybody can die. When they killed Sansa's puppy in episode two they sent the message that nobody is safe no matter how innocent or virtuous. I think only the barest handful of "good" characters will survive.

GRRM will only save minimum amount possible, just enough to still have a semi-catharsis at the end, which catharsis will nevertheless be heavily steeped in irony and martyrdom.

[hagster]

I love this thread! I can't be definitive on my Cersei prediction (mostly because I love the uncertainty of all possibilities) but I think it will be Jaime or The Mountain; I'm not ruling out Sansa though. Cersei's ordered Jaime to be killed if he returns and I don't know why Sansa would leave Winterfell to travel south but there has been much in this series I didn't see coming. What the hell is The Mountain now anyway, a zombie? I don't trust his blind allegiance to Cersei's safety.

I think Varys will live to see the final outcome, but I do think Jon will kill Daenarys when she flips into the justice-driven madness that I think is her fate. Will Jon survive? I can see him dying once he's fulfilled his purpose of being brought back to life by saving the kingdoms from Dany. If this were to happen, who would take the throne? I don't know! Tyrion? I don't see Gendry sitting there. Sansa? No idea how!

After the Battle of Winterfell, I question the GoT philosophy that any big name can die. Cersei must and I believe Daenarys will, but to wipe out the majority of the cast with just 3 episodes to go would be overwhelming unimaginable to me. That being said, I've read that there's an episode still to come that's even bigger than the one we just saw. I love this show!!

[Martina]

I heard that George RR Martin's wife threatened to divorce him if Arya dies.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by hagster

What the hell is The Mountain now anyway, a zombie? I don't trust his blind allegiance to Cersei's safety.

There's got to be another throwdown between The Mountain and The Hound. Just has to be.

[Breathless]

After tonight's episode, I believe that this is what the hound is up to heading back to King's Landing. Good has to win, and I think the Hound is deep down, good.
I also think that however Cersei dies, I think it will be an ambush of sorts with multiple hands involved. She is far too wise for anything less, in my opinion. Cijs… I am really kinda pissed at how Brie was treated, my heart shattered for her.

Originally Posted by Martina

There's got to be another throwdown between The Mountain and The Hound. Just has to be.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by hagster

After the Battle of Winterfell, I question the GoT philosophy that any big name can die.

Good point. I expected more deaths from Battle of Winterfell, and i expected at least one of the "big eight" (Dany, Jon/Sansa/Arya/Bran, Jaime/Tyrion/Cersei) to die. They did not and this was off-brand IMO

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by hagster

I love this thread! I can't be definitive on my Cersei prediction (mostly because I love the uncertainty of all possibilities) but I think it will be Jaime or The Mountain; I'm not ruling out Sansa though. Cersei's ordered Jaime to be killed if he returns and I don't know why Sansa would leave Winterfell to travel south but there has been much in this series I didn't see coming. What the hell is The Mountain now anyway, a zombie? I don't trust his blind allegiance to Cersei's safety.

I think Varys will live to see the final outcome, but I do think Jon will kill Daenarys when she flips into the justice-driven madness that I think is her fate. Will Jon survive? I can see him dying once he's fulfilled his purpose of being brought back to life by saving the kingdoms from Dany. If this were to happen, who would take the throne?

Dany gotta live long enough to birth Jon's baby

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

I think Tyrion will survive. In the books, there is a sense that he is the main character, in my reading. I think he will be the one we see walking off into the sunset in the last scene, possibly with wife Sansa. Maybe breaking the fourth wall or speaking in voiceover to provide a final frame around everything that has happened

I would not be surprised if Arya dies. She has made her life about vengeance and there would be no place for that spirit in the peacetime world that should be the end result of all this struggle.

Other survival predictions (since we're here)...

Survives:

• Tyrion
• Sansa
• Jon
• Bronn
• Sam

Dies:

• Dany
• Arya
• Jaime
• Cersei
• Brienne
• Bran
• Davos
• The Hound
• Varys

Ohhhh, I hope I hope I hope you are wrong. I adore Arya. She's my favorite character and the one I feel has made the most growth throughout the series.

Originally Posted by Martina

I heard that George RR Martin's wife threatened to divorce him if Arya dies.

If that's true, I like that woman.

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

Dany gotta live long enough to birth Jon's baby

Dany could survive tomorrow night by announcing her pregnancy