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Old 08-06-2019, 08:26 PM   #1
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We are all numb and grieving over 200+ instances of mass shootings JUST THIS YEAR.

We do not need this shit from you! Why is it that instead of having helpful solutions, or sympathy for our grief, you feel the overwhelming need to come here to make fun of us for our fluff posts!

I have lost all respect for you, take a flying leap off of a very short pier.
Concur.
How can a citizen of an avowed G-7 ally country uncaringly throw hard rocks toward a close neighbor in trouble. Yes, Trump dissed Trudeau, but that is a symptom of our problem.
For those Internationales unfamiliar with our problem, we are a country in mourning for 200 innocent civilians gunned down by mass murderers who were following the lead of our fascist president. Trump, in concert with Putin, of Russia, have conspired to create chaos through guerrilla warfare conducted by ultra-right pundits who are bent on destruction. Our country has the possibility of erupting into civil war with those same pundits killing as many black, brown, Jewish, and others different from themselves as they possibly can.
I have always believed that Canadians had our back. We are in a desperate situation where our people need the support and help of our neighbors and allies.
The U.S. People are not at blame for the actions of our fascist president. We are victims of an international conspiracy.
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I keep wondering whether it is worth writing this post but decided I'd try just this once.

There was nothing mocking about my post it was simply an ironic reference to all the other mass murders that have come and quickly gone: Parkdale, Las Vegas, Charlottesville , etc etc...they stretch back hundreds of years...and then people move on...AM I REALLY THE FIRST PERSON WHO HAS EVER COMMENTED ON THIS??? OR IS IT THE FACT, LIKE JONATHAN SWIFT'S "MODEST PROPOSAL" I should have left the irony lie and just been so literal no fool could have possibly misinterpreted the intention of the post.
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I keep wondering whether it is worth writing this post but decided I'd try just this once.

There was nothing mocking about my post it was simply an ironic reference to all the other mass murders that have come and quickly gone: Parkdale, Las Vegas, Charlottesville , etc etc...they stretch back hundreds of years...and then people move on...AM I REALLY THE FIRST PERSON WHO HAS EVER COMMENTED ON THIS??? OR IS IT THE FACT, LIKE JONATHAN SWIFT'S "MODEST PROPOSAL" I should have left the irony lie and just been so literal no fool could have possibly misinterpreted the intention of the post.
I wish I could block your arrogant dismissive insulting posts
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I wish I could block your arrogant dismissive insulting posts
You can put anyone on ignore, and you will not see their posts.

For the sake of my health, I have put finally put someone on ignore.
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We are all numb and grieving over 200+ instances of mass shootings JUST THIS YEAR.

We do not need this shit from you! Why is it that instead of having helpful solutions, or sympathy for our grief, you feel the overwhelming need to come here to make fun of us for our fluff posts!

I have lost all respect for you, take a flying leap off of a very short pier.
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I keep wondering whether it is worth writing this post but decided I'd try just this once.

There was nothing mocking about my post it was simply an ironic reference to all the other mass murders that have come and quickly gone: Parkdale, Las Vegas, Charlottesville , etc etc...they stretch back hundreds of years...and then people move on...AM I REALLY THE FIRST PERSON WHO HAS EVER COMMENTED ON THIS??? OR IS IT THE FACT, LIKE JONATHAN SWIFT'S "MODEST PROPOSAL" I should have left the irony lie and just been so literal no fool could have possibly misinterpreted the intention of the post.
Your words are being heard loud and clear, C0LLETTE. Perhaps, you have picked the wrong time to remind us of a flaw we are acutely aware of. We are too raw to pick at that scab.

Analysis of the long term problem would be better when the wound is bleeding a bit less.

Right now, what Americans need is compassion, support, and help. IMO, you have just chosen the wrong time for discussion on the historical perspective.

A physician would not address lifestyle changes with a patient having an acute and possibly lethal injury.
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I would like to get back to the 2020 election if at all possible, anyone else?

Did you all see the news this weekend regarding Booker, Sanders and Harris stumping at a church where the Pastor has said that LGBTQIA folks are going to Hell and that we are all child molesters?

Are the candidates so out of touch that they just go where they are told to go, or do they just not care?

***edited to add...the story was on LGBTQ Nation.****
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Ok Cathexis, I'm writing to you, in particular, because I think you understood the essence of my post.
But, Cathexis, it is never the "right time".

We all feel compassion and sympathy, no question, but as the people of Dayton are crying out they've had enough of the words, prayers, expressions of grief, etc..and saying "Do Something". This patient may die but when exactly do you figure is the right time to start talking before the next patient is lying there. It's always the wrong time.

There is no easy answer, no easy solution but the work has to start somewhere and immediately, the anger must not be allowed to die down before no one again can remember when El Paso and Dayton took place. Most people don't even remember when Sandy Hook took place...and that is what must never be allowed to happen.

So you can all blast me much as you like but I do remember Sandy Hook. I did grieve Sandy Hook and I can remember the names and faces of all those victims.
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So...… tonight I dedicate my post to all the members in our community who somehow aren't around anymore (you know who you are!! I miss reading your posts and articulate points of view).


I've been reading news articles from the website for progressive news coverage: Common Dreams (click the title, it takes you to their website).

Here are a few things I have noticed that haven't gotten much coverage in the news, which might be good ideas for current Democratic Presidential Candidates to speak up about:

1) FEMA (have any of the victims of climate change weather tragedies received any monetary benefit since 2016?);

2) Does the current administration owe your city money due to them visiting your city and incurring outrageous public safety fees, like it owes El Paso (T^^^P admin owes El Paso $500K)???

3) Did anyone else see the news byte from MM which has created some buzz around former 1st Lady Michelle Obama, running for President? I heard it on NPR today.... and read about it elsewhere online.



5) I'd like to see the Castro brothers annihilate the current administrations vitriol surrounding racially motivated hate directed toward Mexico and it's citizens and any individual from any Central or South American country who wants to immigrate to the US. Here is a current research article from The Pew Research Center (non-partisan think tank) which presents scientific data that people of Mexican ethnicity/nationality are NOT illegally immigrating to the US (See Link Below).

5 Facts About Illegal Immigration In The US
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The El Paso tragedy is, in my mind, more than just a tipping-point issue on Gun Control and Immigration and that infernal load of baloney about the 'wall' that the DC administration is hell bent on building across the southern border of the US and all the other troubling issues concerning locking up and caging up countless children and adults who left their own country due to crushing levels of poverty created by the so-called 'Free Trade Policy' which has done nothing to help anyone but line the pockets of the filthy rich and used in tit-4-tat trade war crap by the current monster in office.

So many critical policy issues at stake. I won't be surprised if the GOP has been raiding PENSION policy plans and setting up a coup to take down every policy that protects the common and not so common workers in America.

That's all I got tonight. Just a mountain of concerns and a boat load of sadness and grief for all the people who are suffering tonight due to horrific tragedies around the country.
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I Beto having a moment out there or is it just in Texas?

He said "what the fuck" over the weekend and everyone swooned all over social media.
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As a native of the Dayton area, who went to school and worked in Dayton, I don't think Dayton needs people from outside our nation's boundaries advocating for us. We will do fine, thank you very much. Dayton was the Ohio city most affected by the opioid crisis, but is now the model city for reducing deaths from opioids. We don't need others patronizing us.

I also think if you're going to make a point about remembering, you might get the names right. It's Parkland, not Parkdale. I don't think too many U.S. citizens would have made that error because the lives lost were our own.
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