2020 Presidential Election

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by Martina

As a native of the Dayton area, who went to school and worked in Dayton, I don't think Dayton needs people from outside our nation's boundaries advocating for us. We will do fine, thank you very much. Dayton was the Ohio city most affected by the opioid crisis, but is now the model city for reducing deaths from opioids. We don't need others patronizing us.

I also think if you're going to make a point about remembering, you might get the names right. It's Parkland, not Parkdale. I don't think too many U.S. citizens would have made that error because the lives lost were our own.

How do you know what the people of Dayton "need" ? Are you really speaking for "the people of Dayton" because you once lived there? I don't speak for all Canadians even though people here try to keep shoving me into that corner

What is it you actually know/remember about the Holocaust? But I sure as Hell wouldn't hate you for referencing that pain, even 70 years later. I wouldn't ask you to prove you were Jewish or show me where you live..even if you misspelled the name of every single Concentration Camp.

There was nothing patronizing about my post except what you demagogically tried to stick in there.

As for Parkdale/Parkland... Why are you so unable to accept that even if one person outside America remembers those crimes it is something to acknowledge positively. The murder of children, even if those children are American, is not a crime only against America.

Do you really think that only citizens of Somalia can speak out on the massacres there, only citizens of Hong Kong can speak out on the repression there, only Saudis can speak out about the murder of reporters there?

You don't need to be able to spell every name right, every chronology exactly, to have a right to express an empathy for the central issue...

otherwise you end up with an ever diminishing circle of nodding heads and no one else feels a right to speak out...even in the most innocuous way.

And please stop looking for the tiniest reference to try to diminish larger points...it just looks impotent .

[MsTinkerbelly]

My point about Booker/Sanders/Harris, was that by going to that venue for their political gain, and not as a push back to the message of hate by their pastor, gave implicit approval to his message. In essence, saying that he had the power to bring together an audience of right leaning people to hear their stump speech, so it was fine that he spoke out against us.

This was not right leaning Foxx news giving them a townhall, this was someone using hate speech against our community, and the 3 of them NEVER addressed the issue. Booker and Harris ATTENDED A CHURCH SERVICE, while Sanders went so far as to give his political stump speech.

I won’t vote for any of them, and Harris was my prior choice.

[Kätzchen]

Originally Posted by MsTinkerbelly

My point about Booker/Sanders/Harris, was that by going to that venue for their political gain, and not as a push back to the message of hate by their pastor, gave implicit approval to his message. In essence, saying that he had the power to bring together an audience of right leaning people to hear their stump speech, so it was fine that he spoke out against us.

This was not right leaning Foxx news giving them a townhall, this was someone using hate speech against our community, and the 3 of them NEVER addressed the issue. Booker and Harris ATTENDED A CHURCH SERVICE, while Sanders went so far as to give his political stump speech.

I won’t vote for any of them, and Harris was my prior choice.

You make a salient point, and I agree with your assessment. Why is that, that people have a hard time not seeing the exact point you make: That all three of them never addressed that specific issue -- the glaring issue of not calling out the undisguisable bigotry of hate speech directed toward the greater LGBTQ community?

In a parallel type situation, NPR's 'Fresh Air' hosts took up the larger discussion about how the owner of a nation-wide gym facility is actually hosting a T^^^P fundraiser at his Connecticut home; that said owner's profits must be funding right-wing nationalist agenda for T/P because they have been soliciting big-ticket prices to attend this (COUGH/PUKE) event at the gym owner's private Connecticut residence; that even gym attendee's in West Hollywood (who were interviewed on the radio show) took issue with how the gym owner is basically thumbing his nose at the community that supports his facilities and how people just don't get how awful it is that the place they've been pumping money into is none other that a hate-sponsoring enterprise with no conscience on how they are using their profits to fund T-monster-land, etc.

My heart is hurting for those who are being rounded up in ICE raids: parents and kids lives are torn apart with unimaginable heartache.


First They Came ...


They came for the Communists, and I
didn’t object – For I wasn’t
a Communist;

They came for the Socialists, and I
didn’t object – For I wasn’t a Socialist;

They came for the labor leaders, and I
didn’t object – For I wasn’t a labor leader;

They came for the Jews, and I didn’t
object – For I wasn’t a Jew;

Then they came for me –
And there was no one left to object.

Martin Niemöller



Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller (14 January 1892 – 6 March 1984) was a German theologian and Lutheran pastor. He is best known for his opposition to the Nazi regime during the 1930s and for his widely quoted poem "First they came ...". (LINK)