It's Time to Boycott Arizona

[asphaltcowboi]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Hey Cody, I am a bit confused about your statement. Do you feel the things we posted are untruths?

no i think some of the media has cause some untruths to be stated and repeated as truth..

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by cody

no i think some of the media has cause some untruths to be stated and repeated as truth..

Really cause your Governor was very clear about what she was lying about. Do you mean her lies about mexicans and how we are running around cutting heads off and leaving them in Arizona deserts?

Or this lie?

I am trying to understand what you mean by untruths. Or are you saying your government in that state is full of lying, hateful, racist jerks.

Thank you for the dialogue

[Julie]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Really cause your Governor was very clear about what she was lying about. Do you mean her lies about mexicans and how we are running around cutting heads off and leaving them in Arizona deserts?

Or this lie?

I am trying to understand what you mean by untruths. Or are you saying your government in that state is full of lying, hateful, racist jerks.

Thank you for the dialogue

Propaganda... 2010 Propaganda (above )
Propaganda---1930's Propaganda



I am pretty blown away that this billboard which Snow post, is legal. I am shocked. I read the article, and I am really hoping what I have read is true about the decline of tourism, etc in Arizona - that Arizona is losing money. I hope and I am sorry Cody - that Arizona collapses.

P.S.... Propaganda Kills... Just ask the survivors of any country who have experienced Racial Cleansing. Remember Rwanda?

[asphaltcowboi]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Really cause your Governor was very clear about what she was lying about. Do you mean her lies about mexicans and how we are running around cutting heads off and leaving them in Arizona deserts?

Or this lie?

I am trying to understand what you mean by untruths. Or are you saying your government in that state is full of lying, hateful, racist jerks.

Thank you for the dialogue

yes our government here is messed up.. lack of eductation yes.. i am saying alot of the stories have been blown way out of perportion then discribed in the media as such.. and yes there are many horiable truths also..
az is not as bad as alot precieve it to be and alot of the same things happen in the other "boarder states" .. not just az..
i am not a hater by anymeans.. but if you want to come to the states from canada,russia mexico or anywhere else please take the legal steps to do so..
i am aware its difficult for latinos here when they are pulled over out of random because they have the "look" at the same time i feel we need to get a grip on the influx of people blue eyed or brown eyed that come here esp. to suthern az. we are already a "broke" state and have no way to tax illeagles for servces rendered .. medical.. housing..ect..
as a whole this is an awsome state there would be no reason for the words boycot az if so many people didnt love it here and want to live here. its is painful when i see the words boycot az. yes we need help with many issues as do may states.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by cody

yes our government here is messed up.. lack of eductation yes.. i am saying alot of the stories have been blown way out of perportion then discribed in the media as such.. and yes there are many horiable truths also..
az is not as bad as alot precieve it to be and alot of the same things happen in the other "boarder states" .. not just az..
i am not a hater by anymeans.. but if you want to come to the states from canada,russia mexico or anywhere else please take the legal steps to do so..
i am aware its difficult for latinos here when they are pulled over out of random because they have the "look" at the same time i feel we need to get a grip on the influx of people blue eyed or brown eyed that come here esp. to suthern az. we are already a "broke" state and have no way to tax illeagles for servces rendered .. medical.. housing..ect..
as a whole this is an awsome state there would be no reason for the words boycot az if so many people didnt love it here and want to live here. its is painful when i see the words boycot az. yes we need help with many issues as do may states.

Do you realize the Governor of your state tried to pass a law that started racial profiling??

Have you really read the whole thread?

Do you think your state is broke cause of all the undocumented (not illegal) people in it? Could it be cause we had W as a president for 8 years???

Do you really think they are gonna pull you over and ask for verification of your race? What is the look??

Cause lemme tell you Cody Az is full of "that look" you have Native Americans, Chicanos who have been there longer than most of the white people there who will be harrased and tagged as having "that look" and they will be pulled over WAYYYYYYYYYYY before a Canadian, Chinese, or Russian undocumented worker.

I am gonna be honest I am a tiny bit offended by your term "that look" what does that mean?

What "look" does one have when one is of Latino Heritage?

Your Governor is a racist pig who tried to pass a law that would of made racial profiling legal.

If you can't see how gross that is then that is because your white skin allows you to have the safety of having that never happen.

[asphaltcowboi]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Do you realize the Governor of your state tried to pass a law that started racial profiling??

Have you really read the whole thread?

Do you think your state is broke cause of all the undocumented (not illegal) people in it? Could it be cause we had W as a president for 8 years???

Do you really think they are gonna pull you over and ask for verification of your race? What is the look??

Cause lemme tell you Cody Az is full of "that look" you have Native Americans, Chicanos who have been there longer than most of the white people there who will be harrased and tagged as having "that look" and they will be pulled over WAYYYYYYYYYYY before a Canadian, Chinese, or Russian undocumented worker.

I am gonna be honest I am a tiny bit offended by your term "that look" what does that mean?

What "look" does one have when one is of Latino Heritage?

Your Governor is a racist pig who tried to pass a law that would of made racial profiling legal.

If you can't see how gross that is then that is because your white skin allows you to have the safety of having that never happen.

i know all this first hand... and all i can say is "think" and "say" what you will i love my state and always will...
i will never be able to get my point across az is beautiful an i will not take other opinoins as personal but treat them as i do our local government.. shrug my shoulder and walk out wishing there werent so many haters in the world.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by cody

i know all this first hand... and all i can say is "think" and "say" what you will i love my state and always will...
i will never be able to get my point across az is beautiful an i will not take other opinoins as personal but treat them as i do our local government.. shrug my shoulder and walk out wishing there werent so many haters in the world.

You can accuse me of being a hater all you want. It's fact, the people that were elected to run your beautiful racist state are and would pass racial profiling laws if you let them. A LOT of people (whites) backed this decision because "people with that look" were taking over their jobs, their women, their lands blah blah blah.

No one is telling you not to love the racist state you live in, you can love it and support it all you want, as I said your white skin gives you that security and freedom to do so. What I will never grasp is how a queer a part of the minority can shrug their shoulder off to the racial bullshit in the very place they live...

[Nat]

[The_Lady_Snow]

I would still like to know what a member of my online community considers to be "that look"

Cause I bet it has nothing to do with sunshine and lollipops or anything positive.

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by cody

wishing there werent so many haters in the world.

Yeah, me too. If there were less haters then Brewer couldn't get enough votes to win re-election and this terrible law would never have passed.

Brewer's scum for more than just 1070, though. Local reporters have been investigating her and her office's connections to private prison firms. It seems that her administration is deeply connected with those firms. Not only are they working to privatize all of the prisons, they were connected to the writing of 1070, which gives them more business in the private prisons they already have in the state. Bottom line - 1070 is all about putting money in Brewer's cronies pockets. Typical republican crap - money matters and screw everything and everyone else.

[Julie]

I conducted a number of years ago tolerance workshops for Jews. Surprising to me, because a number of these Jews survived the Holocaust. Some showed me their numbers tatoo'd on their arms. The room was filled with Racists.

As a Jew it gave me permission to speak to them differently. I reminded them, that in this country they were safe for the most part. They were European Jews, many with blonde hair and blue eyes - many with black afros and brown eyes. Yet, clearly white european. Interestingly enough - They took offense at being called white. I understand this, I take offense, even though I am white of skin - Genetically I am not, as most Jew are not.

We discussed what it was like to watch their villages burned. We discussed what it it like for a POC in this country to watch their family and friends being beaten down and yes, even 10 years ago racially profiled.

I pass with my fair skin and green eyes. I have been around hateful people in social settings. I have been spoken to, as if I would understand... "Hitler had it right when he gassed them." I have heard worse. Because I pass. Sometimes, I am tired of passing for a non-jew - even though, I am ashamed and often embarrassed by my people and their ignorance.

Ignorance and Propaganda does indeed kill. Everyday in the world, people are still experiencing Ethnic Cleansing. I hear about this daily through my work. I get emails begging for help. I cannot help these people. There is nothing I can do. Except pray for them. Hope the work I do changes our future adults.

What's happening in Arizona is no different than what happened in the Ghetto's. It starts with Propaganda and a government which supports Racial Profiling. Do not think for a moment it cannot happen again. Do not think for a moment, we in this country will not do this.

LOOK AT WHAT WE DID in Afghanistan to the prisoners of war.

I will always go back to this. WE are better than THAT!

We are BETTER THAN THAT!
Aren't we?

[Queerasfck]

Originally Posted by cody

i am aware its difficult for latinos here when they are pulled over out of random because they have the "look" at the same time i feel we need to get a grip on the influx of people blue eyed or brown eyed that come here esp. to suthern az. we are already a "broke" state and have no way to tax illeagles for servces rendered .. medical.. housing..ect..
as a whole this is an awsome state there would be no reason for the words boycot az if so many people didnt love it here and want to live here. its is painful when i see the words boycot az. yes we need help with many issues as do may states.

Interesting that you use the word difficult to describe getting pulled over. Wouldn't you say that difficult is a huge understatement?? If you got pulled over by the police because you had blue eyes would you say that's difficult?? I wouldn't. I'd say that's racial profiling. I am at a loss every time I read some of the things in this thread.

I've lived in Arizona so I saw how it was.