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Old 11-28-2010, 10:47 PM   #1
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I am sorry that you are not able to come here to live your life with your partner. And I do hope that will be possible in the future. I do believe once Same Sex marriage is recognized and legalized in this country immigration will be possible for millions. Rightly so.

As far as your first paragraph I am not seeing what you are seeing.

My ex husband was from Colombia, and believe me getting a green card for someone from that country was not an easy matter. Or pleasant either.
He's my husband, not partner.

Whether or not it was easy, you had the right to sponsor your ex for immigration. My husband does not have that same right.



As for the "empathetic and compassionate" -- your earlier post posited that the USA -- as a country -- is characterized by these qualities--your next post said the people have these characteristices--that is quite a difference and makes me wonder what qualities of the USA actually DO demonstrate these traits when the opposite appears to be true in so many of its policies!

I hope this clarified my earlier response.

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He's my husband, not partner.

What I am saying is that everyone has the right to sponsor their opposite sex spouse for immigration. Whether or not that is granted or not, is a different story.

Under DOMA, federal immigration rights do not extend to married queer folks and that DOES include transfolks in many circumstances.

You had the legal right to sponsor your husband for immigration. THOUSANDS do not have the same right.

I hope this clarified my earlier response.
You and I are on the same page regarding DOMA and immigration rights for same-sex marriages.
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You and I are on the same page regarding DOMA and immigration rights for same-sex marriages.
It does not even have to be about marriage. Australia does not recognise same sex marriages either, HOWEVER we do recognise defacto relationships between same sex couples which allows us the same right to sponsor our partners for Immigration purposes.
I am also curious about this part of your post,

"I did say in my post that I thought the present laws needed to be more fair to coming here from countries other than White European."

I am not sure how it is harder for one than the other.
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You and I are on the same page regarding DOMA and immigration rights for same-sex marriages.
I think I misread your question regarding my earlier post, so I edited my response quite a bit to, hopefully, clarify myself; I am confused that someone from our community--especially--would consider the USA "empathetic" and "compassionate" when so many of its laws/policies are in direct opposition to these qualities and have, actually, directly and negatively impacted our lives.

Just to let you know, it isn't just same sex marriages that have immigration issues. My husband is trans, and access to immigration rights are not a given based on transition.

//sorry for getting a bit off topic, AZ immig thread!//
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