"straight" women and Butches.

Merlin · 05-08-2011, 04:58 PM

June (loving the name) I know love takes all shapes and forms,what I wonder is for a straight or supposedly straight woman is a butch a way to explore their sexuality with someone who visually looks male so as not to give the game away ..

Soon · 05-08-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

June (loving the name) I know love takes all shapes and forms,what I wonder is for a straight or supposedly straight woman is a butch a way to explore their sexuality with someone who visually looks male so as not to give the game away ..

I don't know about that....giving "the game away"?....When I dated butches, it was quite obvious we were both women regardless of how they identified.

If anything, we were more noticeable and immediately considered lesbian/queer by the general public.

Merlin · 05-08-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I don't know about that....giving "the game away"?....When I dated butches, it was quite obvious we were both women regardless of how they identified.

If anything, we were more noticeable and immediately considered lesbian/queer by the general public.

What about if she passes and is perceived to be male ?

Soon · 05-08-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

What about if she passes and is perceived to be male ?

never happened

Merlin · 05-08-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

never happened

Is that because you date Butches who don't pass ?

Thinker · 05-08-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

What is the fascination ?

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Originally Posted by June

I don't know. Go ask a straight woman.

I'm with June......except I'd say you would have to ask each individual straight woman what her specific interest and/or fascination and/or attraction is.

There's no possible way for anyone here (or anywhere) to provide a definitive answer to that question. Anything anyone offers is purely and merely speculation.

*shrug*

Quintease · 05-08-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

What about if she passes and is perceived to be male ?

Actually I did know one lesbian who frequently passed and so pulled many a very surprised and intrigued straight woman.

Merlin · 05-08-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintease

Actually I did know one lesbian who frequently passed and so pulled many a very surprised and intrigued straight woman.

Me I am an honourable butch,I couldn't take advantage of an unknowing straight woman.

All my ex's have previously been straight and knew the score with me, I guess an unscrupulous butch could take advantage of a straight woman's vulnerabilities ??

Soon · 05-08-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I don't know about that....giving "the game away"?....When I dated butches, it was quite obvious we were both women regardless of how they identified.

If anything, we were more noticeable and immediately considered lesbian/queer by the general public.

Addendum: I should have written, it was obvious we were both "female born" as some did not ID as women.

The_Lady_Snow · 05-08-2011, 05:09 PM

It could be "straight" is The only label she knows to identify with, sexual curiosity could be what she is free to do. Heteronorm is what is continually shoved in our faces vía media, religion, culturally. Then again I'm one to believe we're all sexually fluid until sexual standards are fed to us.

NorCalStud · 05-08-2011, 05:26 PM

I think it is the butchfemme dance most often. That energy exists in the atmosphere. It is a dance. There is all kine dancin....I have done alotta alotta that dancin. The straight women are saying they love and admire butch energy. They are attracted to those who are themselves regardless of societal pressure. Rebels and freedom are archetypical of strength. These are just words with maybe some illumimation. I always ask straight women why they wanna be with me...it is always desire.

Strappie · 05-08-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

June (loving the name) I know love takes all shapes and forms,what I wonder is for a straight or supposedly straight woman is a butch a way to explore their sexuality with someone who visually looks male so as not to give the game away ..

I have a few friends that are living the straight life. However they date women. Most of these friends date other femmes it's just who they are attracted to.

One of my good friends is a Married lesbian as she calls it. She is married to an amazing man and she has a girlfriend whom is also fem. This partnership works for them.

Doesn't matter it's the preference of each person as to what they like.

Merlin · 05-08-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by June

I don't know. Go ask a straight woman.

Am seeing one .. Although I think I have blurred her straight lines out

Corkey · 05-08-2011, 08:29 PM

Lets put a couple of misconceptions to rest shall we..
Male does not nor has never as far as I know been about being Butch. Butch is a 3d gender, except when it isn't. Not ALL Butches LOOK masculine, nor do ALL Femmes LOOK feminine, except when they do and if they want to.

You have some kind of messed up generalizations going on here from your posts that perhaps you should do some reading on this site to get some since of where these thoughts are coming from.

Again welcome to The Planet, and I hope you will explore not just the things that make us different, but those that make us a community.

Heart · 05-08-2011, 08:47 PM

Whenever I see a thread about "straight women and butches" -- it makes me twitch. (Haven't read the posts - so nothing personal.)

Mr.Nobody · 05-08-2011, 08:56 PM

I think a more fitting question would be...what is YOUR fascination with straight women? I mean...with a world full of beautiful queer, gay, femme, lesbian, girls, grrls (and any other id's I may have left out).

blush · 05-08-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Nobody

I think a more fitting question would be...what is YOUR fascination with straight women? I mean...with a world full of beautiful queer, gay, femme, lesbian, girls, grrls (and any other id's I may have left out).

Ah yes. And does that straight girl see you for who you are? Will she walk down the street with you when it's not comfortable. Will she take off her heels and beat the living shit out of anyone that messes with ya'll? Will she walk through your life with you?

This thread feels like a shit-stirring thread. Haven't we done this one before?

Martina · 05-08-2011, 10:09 PM

If the butch thinks it's cool cause s/he's converting or taking women away from men, it's squicky. Otherwise, who cares? If people find each other, i am all for it.

A lot of femmes -- and butches -- were once straight.

i guess it is weird to say one has only dated straight women. Maybe the butch lives in the middle of no where or somethin. Who knows.

AtLast · 05-08-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Nobody

I think a more fitting question would be...what is YOUR fascination with straight women? I mean...with a world full of beautiful queer, gay, femme, lesbian, girls, grrls (and any other id's I may have left out).

I agree with this. And I agree with what blush brings up about the fact that many of us (femmes & butches) went through questioning in our lives.

Gayla · 05-08-2011, 11:03 PM

Off the top of my head, I don't recall the topic being discussed on this site before and even if it has, the OP is a new member and might not be aware that the conversation has taken place before in our community.

I have known many butches who date straight women, including a few who will only date women who ID as straight. I have dated, and had LTRs with, straight women. I can't speak for them, but in my experience the draw was probably a combination of several different things including the taboo factor and the "best of both worlds" factor.

On my end, it was never about intentionally seeking out straight women, it was just something that happened in the same way that I have met, dated and have had relationships with any other person.

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Corkey Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Human Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Very Married Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where I want to be Posts: 8,155 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 47,491 Thanked 29,270 Times in 6,637 Posts Rep Power: 21474859	Lets put a couple of misconceptions to rest shall we.. Male does not nor has never as far as I know been about being Butch. Butch is a 3d gender, except when it isn't. Not ALL Butches LOOK masculine, nor do ALL Femmes LOOK feminine, except when they do and if they want to. You have some kind of messed up generalizations going on here from your posts that perhaps you should do some reading on this site to get some since of where these thoughts are coming from. Again welcome to The Planet, and I hope you will explore not just the things that make us different, but those that make us a community. __________________ "Many proposals have been made to us to adopt your laws, your religion, your manners and your customs. We would be better pleased with beholding the good effects of these doctrines in your own practices, than with hearing you talk about them". ~Old Tassel, Chief of the Tsalagi (Cherokee) Last edited by Corkey; 05-08-2011 at 08:32 PM.

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Merlin Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: Knight in shining armour. Relationship Status: Spoken for Join Date: May 2011 Location: England Posts: 250 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 87 Thanked 547 Times in 170 Posts Rep Power: 6763778	June (loving the name) I know love takes all shapes and forms,what I wonder is for a straight or supposedly straight woman is a butch a way to explore their sexuality with someone who visually looks male so as not to give the game away ..

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NorCalStud Member How Do You Identify?: gaea's Daddy and Fiance Preferred Pronoun?: Ours Relationship Status: Engaged with gaea:-) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Island Mountain Posts: 440 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 1,465 Times in 359 Posts Rep Power: 18918588	I think it is the butchfemme dance most often. That energy exists in the atmosphere. It is a dance. There is all kine dancin....I have done alotta alotta that dancin. The straight women are saying they love and admire butch energy. They are attracted to those who are themselves regardless of societal pressure. Rebels and freedom are archetypical of strength. These are just words with maybe some illumimation. I always ask straight women why they wanna be with me...it is always desire.

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Heart Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Relationship Status: rainbows! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 466 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 303 Thanked 2,522 Times in 409 Posts Rep Power: 12032610	Whenever I see a thread about "straight women and butches" -- it makes me twitch. (Haven't read the posts - so nothing personal.)

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Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,286 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	If the butch thinks it's cool cause s/he's converting or taking women away from men, it's squicky. Otherwise, who cares? If people find each other, i am all for it. A lot of femmes -- and butches -- were once straight. i guess it is weird to say one has only dated straight women. Maybe the butch lives in the middle of no where or somethin. Who knows.

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Gayla Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Kinky Butch Top Preferred Pronoun?: I'm not picky Relationship Status: She makes me dance like a fool and forget how to breathe. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SF CA Posts: 3,229 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 877 Thanked 7,077 Times in 1,966 Posts Rep Power: 0	Off the top of my head, I don't recall the topic being discussed on this site before and even if it has, the OP is a new member and might not be aware that the conversation has taken place before in our community. I have known many butches who date straight women, including a few who will only date women who ID as straight. I have dated, and had LTRs with, straight women. I can't speak for them, but in my experience the draw was probably a combination of several different things including the taboo factor and the "best of both worlds" factor. On my end, it was never about intentionally seeking out straight women, it was just something that happened in the same way that I have met, dated and have had relationships with any other person.