"Becoming Chaz"

[Soon]

Finally it is on over here!

[Mister Bent]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

Finally it is on over here!

Please, do us all a favor and tape or otherwise transcribe what is said about the financing of his top surgery and his friends.

Thanks, Jo!

[Soon]

Originally Posted by Mister Bent

Please, do us all a favor and tape or otherwise transcribe what is said about the financing of his top surgery and his friends.

Thanks, Jo!

I'm listening for it!

[Soon]

I'm trying to keep an open mind about Jen, but she is bugging me a bit.

(i.e. squealing while he is in hospital gown, "I've never seen you in a dress...you're in a mumu!" He had to tell her to be quiet.

[Melissa]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I'm trying to keep an open mind about Jen, but she is bugging me a bit.

(i.e. squealing while he is in hospital gown, "I've never seen you in a dress...you're in a mumu!" He had to tell her to be quiet.

I do think that many of Jenn's responses were inappropriate and there were a lot of cringe moments for me. On the other hand, she states she was drinking at this time so I think a lot of these comments and behaviors might be related to her drinking. I think we don't really have a good sense of who Jenn is because a lot of what she said and did was while under the influence. My first reaction was that I didn't like her. But by the end of the doc and the interview with Rosie I really did come to like her (like is such a vague word, but I don't know how to describe it). She said some things that resonated with me and made me think. She didn't come across as phony but as very real. But again this could be a product of good filmmakers and editors plus the drinking. But all in all I got a lot out of this documentary and I'm glad Jenn was included. This was a doc about Chaz's transition, but also his relationship, Jenn's responses, his mother's response and so on.

Melissa

[Soon]

Originally Posted by Melissa

I do think that many of Jenn's responses were inappropriate and there were a lot of cringe moments for me. On the other hand, she states she was drinking at this time so I think a lot of these comments and behaviors might be related to her drinking. I think we don't really have a good sense of who Jenn is because a lot of what she said and did was while under the influence. My first reaction was that I didn't like her. But by the end of the doc and the interview with Rosie I really did come to like her (like is such a vague word, but I don't know how to describe it). She said some things that resonated with me and made me think. She didn't come across as phony but as very real. But again this could be a product of good filmmakers and editors plus the drinking. But all in all I got a lot out of this documentary and I'm glad Jenn was included. This was a doc about Chaz's transition, but also his relationship, Jenn's responses, his mother's response and so on.

Melissa

Good points, Melissa--ones that I hadn't thought about (re: the drinking) and, toward the end, she didn't irritate me as much. That post was first impressions about a half hour or forty five minutes into the doc.

I am VERY glad she was included. Very.

I have this feeling her and Chaz are in for rough times. I wish them the best.

[T D]

Just an observation, but Jen also got taken on this ride of Chaz's. He decided to transition and there she was on the roller coaster with him. Depending on her personality (which I honestly have no clue about from the documentary) this whole experience could have been a very overwhelming thing for her.

I also think it's difficult to make a documentary and choose every single word in such a way that people won't question things that are said and/or what they actually mean. I would not want to be in Chaz's shoes for anything!!

I also believe that Chaz's comments about his sex drive and the T was directed at Jen, and as I recall I think he said he wished she could feel what it's like (but maybe he said women in general). My interpretation of this comment is that it's a feeling like nothing he's ever experienced before and wishes that women (Jen) could experience it as well since he absolutely did not while he was a woman (and neither did I). Just my take on it. It really is something altogether new and different, and yes, exciting as well. Nothing wrong with that.

That's all... stepping away now.

[Rockinonahigh]

I have read nearly all the post hear,but the thing that has me wondering is,why Chaz was siting at a playstation for a year playing vidio games?I understand he was probly dealing with depresion at this point...but a whole year?I dont mean any disrespect buy any stretch of the imaganation about being in depression cause I have delt with it in my life so know its effects on anyone.Shurely with his opertunities to gert help or find something constructive to do to get past this.Being Cher's son there had to be many ways to get help or just " man up" as my son would call it.Dont get me wrong hear cause im not trying to say he didnt try it just loks like all he did was have a pity party for a while,I hear it was booze then the vidio games I herd something about maybe drugs at some point.Many of us who dont nearly have the resorces as Chaz manage to be part of life and deal with how we feel about how we build our lives as best we can.
I realise how hard it is to deal with disfunctional familes,I guarente you my family almost invented the word or shurely put it in the capitial letter bracket.
Im wrighting this thinking about all ive read hear and herd on tv shows lately.What im thinking is about so many of us who manage life with way less chanches to get where we are today but have made it anyway.Im shure I prolly pised off someone hear,again my applogies.Geting off my sope box.

[DomnNC]

His friends that he was sitting down to lunch with loaned him the money. It wasn't a gift but a loan. Apparently, he intends to pay them back.

[amiyesiam]

I binged "chaz bono income"
first article

Chaz's friends lent him the money
he has money coming in but didn't have the checks yet
it was to be a short term loan

[Leigh]

Wow, 6 1/2 lbs gone after the chest surgery ~ I'm figuring once Mine are gone I'll have also lost that amount (but its nice to see him happy afterwards even if he was doped up on pain meds)

[Thinker]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I'm listening for it!

Cool. Check the caption where it shows the names of the two friends. I believe it was written underneath their names.

[Thinker]

I found this from an article online. While it does mention the two women who loaned him the money for the surgery, it also brings up a part of the documentary that really stood out to me.....the "awkward silence" when Chaz made mention of a sex drive that women are somehow unable to experience/feel.

Midway through "Becoming Chaz," the raw and revelatory documentary about Chaz (nee Chastity) Bono's physical transition from female to male, Chaz visits his Alcoholics Anonymous sponsor and her partner to show them the results of his recent chest surgery. The women, who loaned Chaz the money to have his breasts removed, have prepared a lovely brunch and while Chaz chows down, he eagerly describes the side effects of his transition, which includes regular doses of testosterone. Not only does he find himself increasingly unable to abide women's "gabbing," he tells them, his sex drive has increased enormously.

"It's a shame women can't feel it," Chaz says, "and know how biological it is."

"Huh," says his sponsor. And while Bono, oblivious, continues to eat, the two women sit, frozen in a brief but excruciating pause. It all comes down to chemistry, after all.



Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/05/09...#ixzz1MT2iXKE3


ETA: I found myself grimacing during this segment.

[Soon]

"Jane and her partner loaned Chaz the money for the surgery."

[Leigh]

I just saw the part where he visits his sponsor Jane and her partner who loaned him the money for the surgery, and it was really sweet that Jane was so emotional cuz she was so happy for him :-)

[citybutch]

That was a painful and surprisingly sexist comment. And it was painful for me to hear as well.... and untrue...

I think, however, it may reflect Chaz's experience's of his own body when he was female bodied before transition. Perhaps... and this is purely conjecture... but perhaps Chaz had a very low libido or experiences very low libido due to his lack of connection to his female body. I believe the comment was a deep reflection of Chaz and nothing more...

Originally Posted by Thinker

I found this from an article online. While it does mention the two women who loaned him the money for the surgery, it also brings up a part of the documentary that really stood out to me.....the "awkward silence" when Chaz made mention of a sex drive that women are somehow unable to experience/feel.

Midway through "Becoming Chaz," the raw and revelatory documentary about Chaz (nee Chastity) Bono's physical transition from female to male, Chaz visits his Alcoholics Anonymous sponsor and her partner to show them the results of his recent chest surgery. The women, who loaned Chaz the money to have his breasts removed, have prepared a lovely brunch and while Chaz chows down, he eagerly describes the side effects of his transition, which includes regular doses of testosterone. Not only does he find himself increasingly unable to abide women's "gabbing," he tells them, his sex drive has increased enormously.

"It's a shame women can't feel it," Chaz says, "and know how biological it is."

"Huh," says his sponsor. And while Bono, oblivious, continues to eat, the two women sit, frozen in a brief but excruciating pause. It all comes down to chemistry, after all.



Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/05/09...#ixzz1MT2iXKE3


ETA: I found myself grimacing during this segment.

[Soon]

Originally Posted by citybutch

That was a painful and surprisingly sexist comment. And it was painful for me to hear as well.... and untrue...

I think, however, it may reflect Chaz's experience's of his own body when he was female bodied before transition. Perhaps... and this is purely conjecture... but perhaps Chaz had a very low libido or experiences very low libido due to his lack of connection to his female body. I believe the comment was a deep reflection of Chaz and nothing more...

What do you mean untrue?

The sex drives of guys on T does go up exponentially; it is known effect of testosterone. (for anyone)

[~Bo]

OWN keeps rerunning it. It's been on at lease 4 times since the premier last Tuesday.

[Rockinonahigh]

Its been a long time since I knew ,but how much is top surgery?I mean no disrespect to anyone by asking because I was told there was a doc hear that would do a sevire reduction I doubt its the same thing but the price is way less so ive herd.Tomorrow im caling his office to see about the price cause im curious.

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh

Its been a long time since I knew ,but how much is top surgery?I mean no disrespect to anyone by asking because I was told there was a doc hear that would do a sevire reduction I doubt its the same thing but the price is way less so ive herd.Tomorrow im caling his office to see about the price cause im curious.

I used the same Dr as Chaz, and mine was a little over 8 grand.