Vegan/Vegetarian Thread (discussion, recipes, laughs)

[Maria]

Hi there, Greco.

From what I've read, the e.coli was likely in the seeds.

If you google GMO and e.coli, there's lots of info.

3,000 people have been made ill and 30 have died from the outbreak in Germany.

Of course, If you grow your own, using trustworthy seed sources, no worries.

http://www.biofortified.org/2011/06/...gene-transfer/

[Greco]

Key words you've given us Maria is GMO (genetically
modified organism and e. coli) so they've figured out a way to destroy Nature's most precious beginnings, the seed. Imagine that.

I won't get into it further here except to say that gmo's are present in our highly processed industrial food complex, here in the States they've gotten away with not labeling them so not the same in other countries ie., europe, asia, etc

What to do? Buy and eat organic whenever possible, and clean all veggies meats etc well before cooking.

One last thing to consider when researching these topics or any I would say is know who is giving you the info

Like, what do you think a gmo funded media would tell you?

Thanks Maria for your links for people to check out

Greco

Originally Posted by Maria

Hi there, Greco.

From what I've read, the e.coli was likely in the seeds.

If you google GMO and e.coli, there's lots of info.

3,000 people have been made ill and 30 have died from the outbreak in Germany.

Of course, If you grow your own, using trustworthy seed sources, no worries.

http://www.biofortified.org/2011/06/...gene-transfer/

[Greco]

FYI:



one hour in-depth learning



sad but true

Greco

[Greco]

The documentary "Food, Inc" for those interested

you can find it on youtube

Greco

[Dominique]

I worked too long, didn't eat enough and have a low grade head ache.....

I have to whip up a green shake....be back shortly

[Maria]

Re. Europe and GMOs -- I may be wrong about this but I read (in a "non-GMO funded" source I can't recall right now) that organic farms in Europe may purchase and use GMO seeds just as conventional farms do. So in practice, while the organic process may protect vegetables from acquiring topical e.coli, the seed may already be contaminated by GMO injection methods.

Food, Inc. is a great flick. Another good resource to look at is Michael Pollan's writing, especially Omnivore's Dilemma and In Defense of Food. He has lots of smart stuff to say about genetic engineering, the food industrial complex, it's origins in politics, what it's done to the American way of eating, and the havoc it's wreaked on our health. I really can't recommend his books enough.

Sorry for the derail-ishness.

I'd like to write more but I have to run while I'm still motivated.

[Dominique]

Thats not a derail, thats great information that we (those that read this thread) would like to know about. Thank you for posting it.

Hope you had a great run.

Greco, did you havea great half day off?

[Greco]

Today's long run was intense hot humid

I happen to do well in this type of heat
but not in running so late

In any case did my run with tons of H2O

then came home and made after work out
smoothie:

protein powder
berry powder
Kale
carrots
apple
lemon
tofu

Tonight having more H2O with lemon

Have a good evening everyone

Greco

[Dominique]

I cooked quinoa, (chopped veggie infused) so I have some food to eat and take with me this week end. Will be living out of my small cooler again (if the weather cooperates) Heavy storms again last night, we are supposed to Dragon boat race at 10:00...we won't if the river is wicked.

Anyhow, on to all things green.

I made my base smoothie, that is always a bananna, and frozen berries of some sort and a few ice cubes. Plain yogurt or unsweetened almond milk. Today it was the almond milk. Today I used cilantro and I chopped a gala apple, skin and all (just not the core) I wanted the fiber.....and I added a spoonful of bee pollen. The shake was delicious.

Cilantro is slightly sweet. It's full of iron (but not constipating i/e like iron in a vitamin) and has anti inflamation qualities. B pollen. The oriental folks swear by this. In the powder form, not the vitamin. They claim its a super food. When you consider one bee will visit 240 plants gathering assorted pollens, then shed the pollen upon entering the bee's nest, thats how bee pollen is collected.....it is loaded with the B vitamins and is wonderful for your immunity. Now, I am allergic to Bee stings but am not allergic to B pollen. It's pricey but using it a teaspoon at a time.....it lasts a long time.
a teasoon will not add *grit* to your shake.

Just some info about things you may want to add to your shakes.

I made a shake to take with me for later. I put it into a stainless steel LLbean thermos a 10 ounce slim one. It's in the freezer right now, with out the lid. It will become slushy by the time I am ready to leave. I'll screw down the thermos plug and pack it with bottles of h20, also in freezer to be cold(er) common sense, I appologize if I am *preaching* (something I was once accused of some other place). So, getting to my point. I'll consume the thermos shake for lunch around noon.....They don't reccomend you pre make your shakes too far in advance. I'll eat the quinoa later in the afternoon with some cut up cantoloupe and an orange
that I sliced in 4 (just easier to eat while out playing)

Hope everyone has a great day......an extra wave to Greco who has to work all day!

Juice up folks, your body will love you for it.

YB

[Greco]

Hi Veggie People,

Up this am at 4am I know early even for me

pre work out smoothie:

protein powder
banana
frozen strawberries
some green juice
frozen from yesterday

off I went to my run gray morning
humid running alone thankfully
felt really quiet this morning

ran as in a meditation
must have been the gray skies

back home H2O w/lemon

then about 8am post work out
smoothie:

banana
frozen spinach
berry powder
green veggie powder
Vit C
Vit D3
tofu

for lunch I'll have green juicy juice

kale
celery
dandelion greens
cilantro
lemon
fennel (a bit)

YB yes on the bee pollen and hope your races
go on though the weather doesn't look so hot
have a great time out there

preaching? naw, your just sharing some pretty
vital and terrific information keep it coming!

returning to work after this break

really I think I must find another career one
that is more about using my body like farming?

anyway this sedentary stuff is for the birds
and they're always flying so until I find something
different have to get back to my paperwork

Have a great day Veggie People, and you YB
Its great reading your posts

Greco

Originally Posted by Yellow band

I cooked quinoa, (chopped veggie infused) so I have some food to eat and take with me this week end. Will be living out of my small cooler again (if the weather cooperates) Heavy storms again last night, we are supposed to Dragon boat race at 10:00...we won't if the river is wicked.

Anyhow, on to all things green.

I made my base smoothie, that is always a bananna, and frozen berries of some sort and a few ice cubes. Plain yogurt or unsweetened almond milk. Today it was the almond milk. Today I used cilantro and I chopped a gala apple, skin and all (just not the core) I wanted the fiber.....and I added a spoonful of bee pollen. The shake was delicious.

Cilantro is slightly sweet. It's full of iron (but not constipating i/e like iron in a vitamin) and has anti inflamation qualities. B pollen. The oriental folks swear by this. In the powder form, not the vitamin. They claim its a super food. When you consider one bee will visit 240 plants gathering assorted pollens, then shed the pollen upon entering the bee's nest, thats how bee pollen is collected.....it is loaded with the B vitamins and is wonderful for your immunity. Now, I am allergic to Bee stings but am not allergic to B pollen. It's pricey but using it a teaspoon at a time.....it lasts a long time.
a teasoon will not add *grit* to your shake.

Just some info about things you may want to add to your shakes.

I made a shake to take with me for later. I put it into a stainless steel LLbean thermos a 10 ounce slim one. It's in the freezer right now, with out the lid. It will become slushy by the time I am ready to leave. I'll screw down the thermos plug and pack it with bottles of h20, also in freezer to be cold(er) common sense, I appologize if I am *preaching* (something I was once accused of some other place). So, getting to my point. I'll consume the thermos shake for lunch around noon.....They don't reccomend you pre make your shakes too far in advance. I'll eat the quinoa later in the afternoon with some cut up cantoloupe and an orange
that I sliced in 4 (just easier to eat while out playing)

Hope everyone has a great day......an extra wave to Greco who has to work all day!

Juice up folks, your body will love you for it.

YB