Rainbow/Queer Flags/Bumper Stickers--Yes/No?

Inuus · 09-30-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajun_dee

I am from the Deep south and flagging is calling attention to yourself in ways you don't really want, however that makes me want to flag even more.

On another thought our community asks for equal rights and to just fit in to society, so flagging seems out of line, like straight folks don't wave the straight flag.. I hope one day it won't even be a thought.......

I can relate to what you posted. Living in Oklahoma you are running the risk of serious conflict if you "flag". I do not deny who I am and in most instances at work especially I am out but to put that "out there" so to speak is asking for harassment and even physical harm to you or your property. I've had it happen to me....so to me it's not always appropriate.

The part of your post that I bolded I agree with 100%. Have said that for years myself.

clay · 09-30-2011, 10:12 AM

I have lived all over the South...Atlanta,Ga., Fla., and my home state of SC..and I have never, ever had any kind of "retaliation" or harassment, at all, by anyone....with my Pride stickers. I have shared, with discretion, of course, PDA's..and never have I had anyone say anything to me. That is not to say it hasn't happened to others, and could maybe happen to me, but that is my personal choice to show my Pride! I agree with whomever posted about straights "waving" their straight flag..everyday! Kudos! Just my $.02.....carry on

LaneyDoll · 09-30-2011, 11:38 AM

I don't have anything on my car except for the small Alabama "A" on either back window. (Roll Tide Baby!) They are the same color as the pink personalized tag I have in support of breast cancer and regular mammograms.

My Deep South concerns extend to my children. We live in a super small town where there are a lot of closed minds. Honestly, I do not want my preferences to negatively affect their lives. Tolerance and acceptance have been taught in my home ever since they were babies. I just wish other people taught the same values.

ArkansasPiscesGrrl · 09-30-2011, 02:02 PM

I have a super faded rainbow strip on my back window, and a pride colored sticker proclaiming "Femme". In the past I have had a leather pride flag too, but I don't have that car anymore.

I also "flag" on ME..... I have a tattoo on my left shoulder, a heart what has rainbow flag stripes on one half of the heart, and leather pride colors on the other. My next tattoo I get (sometime before the end of the year!) will be the pink triangle, bordered by a strong black outline, with an oriental symbol of "women" inside. Can't wait for that one!

(my heart tattoo was one of the things that caught the eye of my last partner. That and my femme bumper sticker. )

I was driving on I-95 a few years ago, and there was a car full of teen boys that came up alongside of me. a few of them had hastily hand drawn signs saying "Fag" and "Queer". I saw them and smiled REALLY big and waved! LOL Not what they expected!

When I first came out, my partner and I lived in a small backwards town, and our house was down the street from a Church of God. My car's rear end was so rusted out, I had to hold it together with all my Pride stickers! The cars coming and going from the church always slowed and the people glared at me. Oh well!

Rockinonahigh · 10-01-2011, 01:41 AM

On my old suv I had several stickers with rainbows,equality stickers,a pride one..oh and a BF simble I got in dallas.The car im driveing now has nothing on it except a inspection sticker and licence tag...no real reason why I havent put things on it but just never did.

Library_girl · 10-01-2011, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Inuus

I can relate to what you posted. Living in Oklahoma you are running the risk of serious conflict if you "flag". I do not deny who I am and in most instances at work especially I am out but to put that "out there" so to speak is asking for harassment and even physical harm to you or your property. I've had it happen to me....so to me it's not always appropriate.

The part of your post that I bolded I agree with 100%. Have said that for years myself.

I've lived in the South, the Midwest, and now the Golden State in a really gay city. And I've had gay stickers on all my cars since 1989 or so. Plus I have a "gay tattoo". I've never encountered any problems or harassment because of my "flags". (when my dad borrowed my car once, I told him what the stickers meant, and he just shrugged as if to say "so what?" This came from an old guy from the deep south!)

My personal philosophy is that if someone really wants to attack me or say something to me or do something to my car, let them! The possibility of that is not going to stop me from expressing myself or stating who I am.

My sexual orientation IS who I am. I know many LGBT peeps say that its just one part of who they are, it's a part of the whole person. That's cool. But for me, being a lesbian is who I am. Being a femme is who I am too, and being a librarian, and a Southern girl, and a few other things. That's just what identity means to me. So I have decided to express this on my body and my car. (Just like millions of other people do. I love that freedom of speech!) And if someone wants to hurt me, even kill me, because of it, they can go ahead and try. I paraphrase an FDR quote: "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees."

Glenn · 10-02-2011, 05:15 AM

I once restored an old VW camper van (my passion wagon), and it was my pride and joy. I'd go to the parades every year in Chicago with paint and tell everyone to paint some love and pride on my van. It was covered with symbols and sayings lol! One year, it even led in the parade. My poor van was keyed, had every tire flattened, every window bashed in, hate spray painted over all the love and pride,etc. No problem! I'd just fix the damage. Overall.. more people liked it, gave it the peace sign and smiles, much more than the hate in public.

Inuus · 10-02-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Library_girl

I've lived in the South, the Midwest, and now the Golden State in a really gay city. And I've had gay stickers on all my cars since 1989 or so. Plus I have a "gay tattoo". I've never encountered any problems or harassment because of my "flags". (when my dad borrowed my car once, I told him what the stickers meant, and he just shrugged as if to say "so what?" This came from an old guy from the deep south!)

My personal philosophy is that if someone really wants to attack me or say something to me or do something to my car, let them! The possibility of that is not going to stop me from expressing myself or stating who I am.

My sexual orientation IS who I am. I know many LGBT peeps say that its just one part of who they are, it's a part of the whole person. That's cool. But for me, being a lesbian is who I am. Being a femme is who I am too, and being a librarian, and a Southern girl, and a few other things. That's just what identity means to me. So I have decided to express this on my body and my car. (Just like millions of other people do. I love that freedom of speech!) And if someone wants to hurt me, even kill me, because of it, they can go ahead and try. I paraphrase an FDR quote: "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees."

I can see by your post it's very important for you to express yourself as a member of the LGBT community. That it works for you and is part of who you are and to express yourself in that way is great.(Love the Dad story!) However, it doesn't work for everyone. I can relate though when you said "My sexual orientation IS who I am." It's something you strongly identify with and feel a need to express yourself. I on the other hand, identify myself more by being an annoying bastard about animal welfare, especially spay/neuter (I'm known as Bob Barker on steroids and that's one of the nice names). It IS who I am. I willingly put myself sometimes in potentially harmful situations for animals. Thankfully there are those of us that have passions/beliefs/causes we believe in and are willing to lay ourselves open to whatever comes of it.

I did forget to add on my first post I do have one bumper sticker on my truck(and I hate them, took a lot for me to put one on my truck). It's a stick figure of a guy, next to him is his dog, next to the dog is a litter of puppies. It reads: This is Dick, this is Dick's dog, this is Dick's dog's puppies.... Don't be a Dick spay and neuter

Okiebug61 · 10-02-2011, 07:21 AM

I have one sticker on my car that is on the top center back window and it says Okie with the peace sign in the O. Never have been into tagging my vehicles with stickers.

T4Texas · 10-02-2011, 07:57 AM

I don't like bumperstickers and never have them on my vehicles. With that said, some years ago my GF had the rainbow antenna ball stolen from her car and they also managed to mangle her antenna so badly it had to be replaced. I wouldn't put anything on my vehicle that would entice vandals as I can't afford or desire vandalism. Besides, as someone else said, I am a walking advertisement for being butch, so I don't need no stinkin sticker.

Babyangeleyez · 10-02-2011, 08:49 AM

I have never been into bumper stickers. My dad laid down the law on them when he bought me my first car over 20 years ago. So, I have a removable rainbow ribbon that says "Support Our Families". I take it on and off depending on where I'm going. I used to date someone that live in a very small town and I would have to cross over a mountain to get there and I always would take it off at night when I traveled to or from there because I was afraid that I would be run off the road. So there is a safety issue for me. But where I live, I will display it. I also have rainbow beads with a rainbow ribbon hanging from my rear view mirror and I have my necklace with the double female charm.

09-30-2011, 10:12 AM	#2
clay Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: Butch (Silver Fox) Dom Daddi Preferred Pronoun?: 50 Shades of Clay Darker & Deeper Relationship Status: married to my forever Join Date: May 2011 Location: salt air & sandy beaches Posts: 13,136 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 97,020 Thanked 31,675 Times in 7,748 Posts Rep Power: 21474864	I have lived all over the South...Atlanta,Ga., Fla., and my home state of SC..and I have never, ever had any kind of "retaliation" or harassment, at all, by anyone....with my Pride stickers. I have shared, with discretion, of course, PDA's..and never have I had anyone say anything to me. That is not to say it hasn't happened to others, and could maybe happen to me, but that is my personal choice to show my Pride! I agree with whomever posted about straights "waving" their straight flag..everyday! Kudos! Just my $.02.....carry on __________________ To find someone who will love you for no reason, and to shower that person with reasons, that is the ultimate happiness. ~Robert Brault

09-30-2011, 11:38 AM	#3
LaneyDoll Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Girly girl femme Preferred Pronoun?: She; Ma'am; Miss ;) Relationship Status: Pitbull protected. Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2,204 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,892 Thanked 7,683 Times in 1,607 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I don't have anything on my car except for the small Alabama "A" on either back window. (Roll Tide Baby!) They are the same color as the pink personalized tag I have in support of breast cancer and regular mammograms. My Deep South concerns extend to my children. We live in a super small town where there are a lot of closed minds. Honestly, I do not want my preferences to negatively affect their lives. Tolerance and acceptance have been taught in my home ever since they were babies. I just wish other people taught the same values. __________________ There are beauties who stop traffic and then there are beauties who grow obsessively in the hearts of the susceptible.

10-02-2011, 07:21 AM	#9
Okiebug61 Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Light Butch Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Hitched to Red Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,528 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,261 Thanked 5,377 Times in 1,245 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I have one sticker on my car that is on the top center back window and it says Okie with the peace sign in the O. Never have been into tagging my vehicles with stickers. __________________ "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawake." ~ Anatole France

10-02-2011, 07:57 AM	#10
T4Texas Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Ready to play again! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 233 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 436 Thanked 647 Times in 167 Posts Rep Power: 6739721	I don't like bumperstickers and never have them on my vehicles. With that said, some years ago my GF had the rainbow antenna ball stolen from her car and they also managed to mangle her antenna so badly it had to be replaced. I wouldn't put anything on my vehicle that would entice vandals as I can't afford or desire vandalism. Besides, as someone else said, I am a walking advertisement for being butch, so I don't need no stinkin sticker. __________________ Chivalry is when you meet a woman you would rather die for, than live with.

09-30-2011, 02:02 PM	#4
ArkansasPiscesGrrl Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: she, her Relationship Status: feeling pretty darned blissful right now! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: central AR Posts: 856 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,594 Thanked 3,079 Times in 741 Posts Rep Power: 21474850	I have a super faded rainbow strip on my back window, and a pride colored sticker proclaiming "Femme". In the past I have had a leather pride flag too, but I don't have that car anymore. I also "flag" on ME..... I have a tattoo on my left shoulder, a heart what has rainbow flag stripes on one half of the heart, and leather pride colors on the other. My next tattoo I get (sometime before the end of the year!) will be the pink triangle, bordered by a strong black outline, with an oriental symbol of "women" inside. Can't wait for that one! (my heart tattoo was one of the things that caught the eye of my last partner. That and my femme bumper sticker. ) I was driving on I-95 a few years ago, and there was a car full of teen boys that came up alongside of me. a few of them had hastily hand drawn signs saying "Fag" and "Queer". I saw them and smiled REALLY big and waved! LOL Not what they expected! When I first came out, my partner and I lived in a small backwards town, and our house was down the street from a Church of God. My car's rear end was so rusted out, I had to hold it together with all my Pride stickers! The cars coming and going from the church always slowed and the people glared at me. Oh well!

10-01-2011, 01:41 AM	#5
Rockinonahigh Senior Member How Do You Identify?: stone butch Preferred Pronoun?: makes no diffrence,I know who I am. Relationship Status: single,maybe looking if the right person comes along. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 4,907 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,682 Thanked 14,933 Times in 3,938 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	On my old suv I had several stickers with rainbows,equality stickers,a pride one..oh and a BF simble I got in dallas.The car im driveing now has nothing on it except a inspection sticker and licence tag...no real reason why I havent put things on it but just never did.

10-02-2011, 05:15 AM	#7
Glenn Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Dear ol butch bones. Preferred Pronoun?: Old G Relationship Status: Too old to play. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: :rolleyes: Posts: 1,547 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,601 Thanked 3,729 Times in 1,095 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I once restored an old VW camper van (my passion wagon), and it was my pride and joy. I'd go to the parades every year in Chicago with paint and tell everyone to paint some love and pride on my van. It was covered with symbols and sayings lol! One year, it even led in the parade. My poor van was keyed, had every tire flattened, every window bashed in, hate spray painted over all the love and pride,etc. No problem! I'd just fix the damage. Overall.. more people liked it, gave it the peace sign and smiles, much more than the hate in public.

10-02-2011, 08:49 AM	#11
Babyangeleyez Member How Do You Identify?: Femme Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 242 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 152 Thanked 813 Times in 169 Posts Rep Power: 6511029	I have never been into bumper stickers. My dad laid down the law on them when he bought me my first car over 20 years ago. So, I have a removable rainbow ribbon that says "Support Our Families". I take it on and off depending on where I'm going. I used to date someone that live in a very small town and I would have to cross over a mountain to get there and I always would take it off at night when I traveled to or from there because I was afraid that I would be run off the road. So there is a safety issue for me. But where I live, I will display it. I also have rainbow beads with a rainbow ribbon hanging from my rear view mirror and I have my necklace with the double female charm.