2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish

SelfMadeMan · 10-18-2011, 11:25 AM

"George W. Bush did a incredible job in the presidency, defending us from freedom." –Rick Perry

That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with here...

Linus · 10-18-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan

"George W. Bush did a incredible job in the presidency, defending us from freedom." –Rick Perry

That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with here...

From freedom, eh? At least someone admits it!

SelfMadeMan · 10-18-2011, 11:42 AM

"If you're envious of somebody that happens to be rich, that you call a fat cat - go and get rich, instead of expecting them to walk outside of their office and write you a check. That's not how America works, WORK FOR IT"
- Herman Cain

Yeah Cain, it's that easy. Those of us who aren't rich, it's because we just don't work hard enough for it, we don't take advantage of this prosperous economy offered to us. Moron.

Soon · 10-31-2011, 05:58 PM

Herman Cain Addresses Sexual Harassment Settlement

/snip/

Cain entered the Press Club less than 24 hours after Politico reported that the former Godfather's Pizza CEO and head of the National Restaurant Association was accused of sexual harassment by two unnamed women at the association. The charges were not detailed but Politico reported that both women received payments as settlement. NBC News reported Monday that they had independently confirmed a settlement with one of the two women.
...
Cain was not asked how he could have been unaware of a settlement if he knew the results of an investigation into the charges. He said that once the charges were brought against him he recused himself from the investigation.
And he added that he does not want the NRA to confirm or deny the settlements, or give any information at all about the incidents.

AtLast · 10-31-2011, 08:46 PM

What a day today was with the Cain sexual harrassment story and Perry's NH speech!!!

I sear, Perry was either drunk, high or in a manic phase due to too much halloween candy! Yikes!

You know, I get so tired of the hypocritical nature of GOP candidates or elected politicians. All the preaching about Christian values and the the real stories come out.

The other thing on my mind about this is that it seems like when a Democrat gets caught in one of these scandals, it is about consensual actions. Sexual harrassment is not consensual and is a crime and abusive.

The other thing is that I wish that women (or it could be a man) that has beenj sexually harrassed would not take pay-offs. This always brings up talk of that was they were after and sexual harrassment never gets the attention it deserves as a very common crime commited.

I know that many women in this situation are trying to deal with this under the age old "boys club," but damn if i don't wish they would go on to make charges. Then there are all of the fears of losing one's job and thinking about how many single parents there are that need their job in order to support their kids, I get why this happens so often.Then there is all of the blaming the victim that goes on.

I don't ever want any person unfairly charged with sexual harrassment, but I don't know we can ever fight it effectively if back room settlements are made.

Soon · 11-08-2011, 04:16 PM

The instantly infamous line allegedly uttered by Herman Cain as he pushed his accuser's head onto his crotch.

joemygod

AtLast · 11-09-2011, 04:39 AM

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,7925369.story

By Tom Hamburger and Robin Abcarian

Herman Cain's accusers may band together at news conference

November 8, 2011, 8:43 p.m.

The women whose complaints Herman Cain attacked in a news conference Tuesday are planning to counter with a news conference of their own, attorneys for the women said Tuesday night.

"My client has decided to hold a joint news conference with as many of the women who complained of sexual harassment by Herman Cain as will participate," said Joel P. Bennett, the Washington lawyer for Karen Kraushaar, whose harassment claims against Cain got the current controversy rolling after a report of it appeared last week in Politico.

On Tuesday afternoon, Cain called a news conference in Arizona to address several additional allegations of sexual harassment that have surfaced since the initial article appeared. The allegations have immediately pulled the spotlight away from nearly all other topics in the Republican presidential contest.

At the outset of the news conference Tuesday, Cain focused his ire on claims from Sharon Bialek, the Chicago woman who says she was groped by Cain when she met with him in 1997 to ask for help finding a job.

He said when he watched her news conference Monday, he did not even recognize her, and that her account of inappropriate sexual conduct "simply didn't happen."

At one point Cain called the Chicagoan a "troubled woman," claiming that her allegations were put forward by the "Democrat machine."

Kraushaar, 55, sought anonymity at first and her name was not revealed by Politico or in other initial press reports. But she confirmed to several news organizations Tuesday that she was behind the first known sexual harassment complaint. She works as a communications director in a Treasury Department inspector general's office.

She left her job at the National Restaurant Assn. in 1999 after she complained of harassment by Cain, who was the association's chief executive from 1996 to 1999. At the time, she received a $45,000 settlement from the restaurant group, which agreed to pay the
claim without acknowledging its validity. That period of Cain's biography, when he lived part of each week in Washington without his wife and family, is likely to come under more intense scrutiny.

"We will advise all media in advance of the date, time and location of the conference," Bennett said in the email to The Times, noting that he had already been in contact with Bialek's attorney, Gloria Allred, to discuss the news conference.

Allred confirmed that in an email to The Times: "I said I would recommend it to my client, and I think she would want to participate, but I have no details yet and have not had a chance to discuss it with her," Allred wrote.

10-18-2011, 11:25 AM	#1
SelfMadeMan Member How Do You Identify?: Transsexual Man Preferred Pronoun?: Male Relationship Status: Married to The Woman of My Dreams <3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 802 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 796 Thanked 2,668 Times in 527 Posts Rep Power: 18972345	"George W. Bush did a incredible job in the presidency, defending us from freedom." –Rick Perry That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with here...

10-18-2011, 11:42 AM	#3
SelfMadeMan Member How Do You Identify?: Transsexual Man Preferred Pronoun?: Male Relationship Status: Married to The Woman of My Dreams <3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 802 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 796 Thanked 2,668 Times in 527 Posts Rep Power: 18972345	"If you're envious of somebody that happens to be rich, that you call a fat cat - go and get rich, instead of expecting them to walk outside of their office and write you a check. That's not how America works, WORK FOR IT" - Herman Cain Yeah Cain, it's that easy. Those of us who aren't rich, it's because we just don't work hard enough for it, we don't take advantage of this prosperous economy offered to us. Moron.

10-31-2011, 05:58 PM	#4
Soon Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Relationship Status: attached Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: . Posts: 6,896 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,046 Thanked 13,098 Times in 3,386 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	Herman Cain Addresses Sexual Harassment Settlement /snip/ Cain entered the Press Club less than 24 hours after Politico reported that the former Godfather's Pizza CEO and head of the National Restaurant Association was accused of sexual harassment by two unnamed women at the association. The charges were not detailed but Politico reported that both women received payments as settlement. NBC News reported Monday that they had independently confirmed a settlement with one of the two women. ... Cain was not asked how he could have been unaware of a settlement if he knew the results of an investigation into the charges. He said that once the charges were brought against him he recused himself from the investigation. And he added that he does not want the NRA to confirm or deny the settlements, or give any information at all about the incidents.

10-31-2011, 08:46 PM	#5
AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,200 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	What a day today was with the Cain sexual harrassment story and Perry's NH speech!!! I sear, Perry was either drunk, high or in a manic phase due to too much halloween candy! Yikes! You know, I get so tired of the hypocritical nature of GOP candidates or elected politicians. All the preaching about Christian values and the the real stories come out. The other thing on my mind about this is that it seems like when a Democrat gets caught in one of these scandals, it is about consensual actions. Sexual harrassment is not consensual and is a crime and abusive. The other thing is that I wish that women (or it could be a man) that has beenj sexually harrassed would not take pay-offs. This always brings up talk of that was they were after and sexual harrassment never gets the attention it deserves as a very common crime commited. I know that many women in this situation are trying to deal with this under the age old "boys club," but damn if i don't wish they would go on to make charges. Then there are all of the fears of losing one's job and thinking about how many single parents there are that need their job in order to support their kids, I get why this happens so often.Then there is all of the blaming the victim that goes on. I don't ever want any person unfairly charged with sexual harrassment, but I don't know we can ever fight it effectively if back room settlements are made.

11-08-2011, 04:16 PM	#6
Soon Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Relationship Status: attached Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: . Posts: 6,896 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 29,046 Thanked 13,098 Times in 3,386 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	The instantly infamous line allegedly uttered by Herman Cain as he pushed his accuser's head onto his crotch. joemygod

11-09-2011, 04:39 AM	#7
AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,200 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,7925369.story By Tom Hamburger and Robin Abcarian Herman Cain's accusers may band together at news conference November 8, 2011, 8:43 p.m. The women whose complaints Herman Cain attacked in a news conference Tuesday are planning to counter with a news conference of their own, attorneys for the women said Tuesday night. "My client has decided to hold a joint news conference with as many of the women who complained of sexual harassment by Herman Cain as will participate," said Joel P. Bennett, the Washington lawyer for Karen Kraushaar, whose harassment claims against Cain got the current controversy rolling after a report of it appeared last week in Politico. On Tuesday afternoon, Cain called a news conference in Arizona to address several additional allegations of sexual harassment that have surfaced since the initial article appeared. The allegations have immediately pulled the spotlight away from nearly all other topics in the Republican presidential contest. At the outset of the news conference Tuesday, Cain focused his ire on claims from Sharon Bialek, the Chicago woman who says she was groped by Cain when she met with him in 1997 to ask for help finding a job. He said when he watched her news conference Monday, he did not even recognize her, and that her account of inappropriate sexual conduct "simply didn't happen." At one point Cain called the Chicagoan a "troubled woman," claiming that her allegations were put forward by the "Democrat machine." Kraushaar, 55, sought anonymity at first and her name was not revealed by Politico or in other initial press reports. But she confirmed to several news organizations Tuesday that she was behind the first known sexual harassment complaint. She works as a communications director in a Treasury Department inspector general's office. She left her job at the National Restaurant Assn. in 1999 after she complained of harassment by Cain, who was the association's chief executive from 1996 to 1999. At the time, she received a $45,000 settlement from the restaurant group, which agreed to pay the claim without acknowledging its validity. That period of Cain's biography, when he lived part of each week in Washington without his wife and family, is likely to come under more intense scrutiny. "We will advise all media in advance of the date, time and location of the conference," Bennett said in the email to The Times, noting that he had already been in contact with Bialek's attorney, Gloria Allred, to discuss the news conference. Allred confirmed that in an email to The Times: "I said I would recommend it to my client, and I think she would want to participate, but I have no details yet and have not had a chance to discuss it with her," Allred wrote.