2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by AtLast

There were 59 years in which the ERA was tossed about and never ratified! That is only one year less than my age now and my Grandmother was among suffragists that first introduced the ERA. So, I guess I better get busy with working toward the possibility of seeing Citizens United be overturned within my lifetime! However, it will have to be one hell of a lot shorter time frame!

On the other hand, the 21st Amendment was ratified in 10 months.

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

On the other hand, the 21st Amendment was ratified in 10 months.

Oh, yes.... I feel better... thanks.... Well, sort of..

[AtLast]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nment-44m.html

Revealed: The steel company deal that earned Mitt Romney millions while costing the government $44m and 750 people their jobs

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1jMrxQQp2

This is the stuff that really irks me-

...< a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company's underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees. <<-

Bain/Romney make $ while the fed government ends up having to make things right for employees!!

[MsMerrick]

Newt Gingrich sounding more far left.. More like an Occupier... than ..Well most Democrats

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[Kobi]

Originally Posted by MsMerrick

Newt Gingrich sounding more far left.. More like an Occupier... than ..Well most Democrats

30 minute Ad here..

Politics makes me nuts and ads like this make me even nuttier. Romney, who I dont care for, is no different, no worse in what has become common business practices in a post-deregulation economic society. Romney is no different than Cheney was at Halliburton or half of Obama's cabinent was at Goldman Sacks.

What makes me twitch, is when someone, like Newt, ( who, btw, reminds me of a south park character) who was an big part the republican machine that set up this "new" business environment, trying to distance themselves from that which they created and trying to indict those who took full advantage of their creation as being "bad" people.

You created it. Others took full advantage of it. To me, if you refuse to take responsibility for what you created, you have no right to condemn those used it to their own advantage.

I am going to be bald before this election is over.

[Cin]

Bill Maher cracks me up.

Maher: Santorum thinks about gay sex more than a dildo salesman

Bill Maher on Thursday said that there was a connection between Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum’s sexual frustration and his desire to bomb Iran.

In an interview with Chelsea Handler, Maher explained that former candidate Herman Cain was scheduled to appear on an upcoming episode of his HBO show.

“I like Herman Cain,” Maher admitted. “You know, I said to him, I said, “Look, I don’t like hate your fucking guts like I hate Newt Gingrich.’ I mean, I really don’t like him.”

“No, I hate Newt Gingrich,” Handler agreed. “And everyone watching also hates them, OK?”

Mayer said, however, that former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum was the most ridiculous candidate because of his views on gay rights.

“He wears a sweater vest everywhere, which is proof that he does not have one gay friend,” Maher noted. “This guy thinks about gay sex more than any gay man in America. There’s a guy down in West Hollywood working at Dorothy’s and Dildos who does not think about gay sex as much as Rick Santorum.”

“Also, [he] wants to bomb Iran,” the comedian continued. “And I think people who are sexually frustrated want to bomb other countries. I really think there’s a connection there. I think this guy is more backed up than [Interstate] 405.”

[Semantics]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

Bill Maher cracks me up.

Maher: Santorum thinks about gay sex more than a dildo salesman

Bill Maher on Thursday said that there was a connection between Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum’s sexual frustration and his desire to bomb Iran.

In an interview with Chelsea Handler, Maher explained that former candidate Herman Cain was scheduled to appear on an upcoming episode of his HBO show.

“I like Herman Cain,” Maher admitted. “You know, I said to him, I said, “Look, I don’t like hate your fucking guts like I hate Newt Gingrich.’ I mean, I really don’t like him.”

“No, I hate Newt Gingrich,” Handler agreed. “And everyone watching also hates them, OK?”

Mayer said, however, that former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum was the most ridiculous candidate because of his views on gay rights.

“He wears a sweater vest everywhere, which is proof that he does not have one gay friend,” Maher noted. “This guy thinks about gay sex more than any gay man in America. There’s a guy down in West Hollywood working at Dorothy’s and Dildos who does not think about gay sex as much as Rick Santorum.”

“Also, [he] wants to bomb Iran,” the comedian continued. “And I think people who are sexually frustrated want to bomb other countries. I really think there’s a connection there. I think this guy is more backed up than [Interstate] 405.”

So funny.

I just watched tonight's Real Time and Bill didn't disappoint.
He brought up something that Santorum said within the past few days about Mitt Romney:

[Santorum] said the party can win back the White House only by offering a “clear contrast” with President Obama. “We need contrasts,” Mr. Santorum said, “not just a paler shade of what we have.”

Classy.

[Cin]

Thanks to the Supreme Court and their decision for Citizen United this is what the landscape of the 2012 elections look like. We can all individually decide what that might mean for the US.


Gaze Into the Exploding Universe of Dark Money
We've charted the red giants and blue dwarfs spending millions to influence the 2012 election.

If Citizens United was the Big Bang of a new era of money in politics, here's the parallel universe it formed: rapidly expanding super-PACs and nebulous 501(c) groups exerting their gravitational pull on federal elections. A group's size in the chart below is based upon all known fundraising or spending since 2010…so keep an eye out for dark matter.



http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...c-groups-chart

[Cin]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

On the other hand, the 21st Amendment was ratified in 10 months.

If only.

Considering in 2010 the Supreme Court's decision for Citizen United opened the door for super PACs and seeing as control over Washington is maintained by the super rich, this as an uphill battle of monumental proportions, not unlike that of Sisyphus.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

If only.

Considering in 2010 the Supreme Court's decision for Citizen United opened the door for super PACs and seeing as control over Washington is maintained by the super rich, this as an uphill battle of monumental proportions, not unlike that of Sisyphus.

More pieces of the puzzle begin falling into place unveiling a very scary but consistent and methodical process.

BTW, when I first read this, I thought it said "not unlike that of syphillis". Interesting analogy I thought. Obviously, I need to wear my glasses more.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by Kobi

More pieces of the puzzle begin falling into place unveiling a very scary but consistent and methodical process.

BTW, when I first read this, I thought it said "not unlike that of syphillis". Interesting analogy I thought. Obviously, I need to wear my glasses more.

Glad I already finished my orange juice.

[AtLast]

http://www.usnews.com/debate-club

Kind of a fun site for politics junkies- actually has many thoughtful responses. Right now debating the Citizens United decision.

[Kobi]

The news has been reporting, Huntsman is dropping out of the race and endorsing Romney as the best candidate to beat Obama.

So, that leaves Mittens, Perry - who I expect to be the next one dropping out (he is more of a PR nightmare than GW), Paul, and Santorum.

[AtLast]

So, over the weekend, 150 tea-vangelists met in Texas to unite GOP social conservatives on a candidate. They are now behind Santorum.