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Old 04-18-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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Anyone else see the movie and have comments?

I read that the assistant principle has apologized...for what it's worth.
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Anyone else see the movie and have comments?

I read that the assistant principle has apologized...for what it's worth.
apologized????? she actually got to keep her job????????

this pisses me off that she kept her job

when my eldest was in second grade, i got home from errands late and i checked the answering machine and there were 3 girls that I recognized the voices of and could name threatening to do vile things to my daughters body...the things they said NO second grader should ever know about it was sickening and frightening to think my daughter would have to return to that in the fall...

So i took the tape down to the school and forced the prinicipal to listen to the threats of rape

She said...ah kids will be kids....I lost my cookies on that

I said you have 1 choice only here and that is to remove these 3 girls from the school or I will call the news media, the police, the superintendent as well as the state superintendent and you my dear will LOSE YOUR job for not protecting a student. This is your only choice, I expect a letter in the mail showing that these students have been permanently expelled from your school.

I received the letter 3 days later..

I would have come unwound on the AP, she would not have remembered her education when i was done with her.

oh god this shit bugs me...

sorry for the rant...however that momma was just trying to protect her son the best she knew...it pisses me off the way she was treated..
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apologized????? she actually got to keep her job????????

this pisses me off that she kept her job

when my eldest was in second grade, i got home from errands late and i checked the answering machine and there were 3 girls that I recognized the voices of and could name threatening to do vile things to my daughters body...the things they said NO second grader should ever know about it was sickening and frightening to think my daughter would have to return to that in the fall...

So i took the tape down to the school and forced the prinicipal to listen to the threats of rape

She said...ah kids will be kids....I lost my cookies on that

I said you have 1 choice only here and that is to remove these 3 girls from the school or I will call the news media, the police, the superintendent as well as the state superintendent and you my dear will LOSE YOUR job for not protecting a student. This is your only choice, I expect a letter in the mail showing that these students have been permanently expelled from your school.

I received the letter 3 days later..

I would have come unwound on the AP, she would not have remembered her education when i was done with her.

oh god this shit bugs me...

sorry for the rant...however that momma was just trying to protect her son the best she knew...it pisses me off the way she was treated..
Once again Gaea, our similiarites abound.

My son was threatened at school, after hours, at a science team practice. The moment I found out, I called the school, left a message on the principal's voice mail explaining what happened & ended the call with "I will be at the school at 8 in the morning, please be ready to see me about this."

I received a phone call within 30 minutes. By then, I had reviewed the school policies and told the principal, "this appears to be a level three violation and I expect that something will be done." He told me that they have very few offenses of that caliber but he would review the tapes the next morning with the school resource officer. Guess what??? Level three as I predicted.

The child was suspended for three days. I had to go to the school & file out a police reported that basically charged the child with assault. But, I had discussed the incident with the SRO & learned that my filing the report would result in the child being permanently removed from the school system & being placed in an alternative/reform school. That was a hard pill to swallow.

So, I held the report. I had one year to file it and decided to not rush things.

I sent a verbal message to the parents (via the SRO) that I was willing to let them handle things with their son. But I also explained that if there was even a tiny hint of trouble out of their child OR his friends, I would be at the court house the next day-no exceptions. I talked over my thoughts with my son who agreed.

And, there was no more trouble at all. I offered the parents a chance to handle things because I considered that we all speak out of turn and that one day, one of my kids might need that second chance.

Col was in seventh grade. The incident started because he "broke up" with a girl who went crying to a friend. The friend was the instigator.

I hope that everything worked out for your daughter as they did for my son.

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Once again Gaea, our similiarites abound.

My son was threatened at school, after hours, at a science team practice. The moment I found out, I called the school, left a message on the principal's voice mail explaining what happened & ended the call with "I will be at the school at 8 in the morning, please be ready to see me about this."

I received a phone call within 30 minutes. By then, I had reviewed the school policies and told the principal, "this appears to be a level three violation and I expect that something will be done." He told me that they have very few offenses of that caliber but he would review the tapes the next morning with the school resource officer. Guess what??? Level three as I predicted.

The child was suspended for three days. I had to go to the school & file out a police reported that basically charged the child with assault. But, I had discussed the incident with the SRO & learned that my filing the report would result in the child being permanently removed from the school system & being placed in an alternative/reform school. That was a hard pill to swallow.

So, I held the report. I had one year to file it and decided to not rush things.

I sent a verbal message to the parents (via the SRO) that I was willing to let them handle things with their son. But I also explained that if there was even a tiny hint of trouble out of their child OR his friends, I would be at the court house the next day-no exceptions. I talked over my thoughts with my son who agreed.

And, there was no more trouble at all. I offered the parents a chance to handle things because I considered that we all speak out of turn and that one day, one of my kids might need that second chance.

Col was in seventh grade. The incident started because he "broke up" with a girl who went crying to a friend. The friend was the instigator.

I hope that everything worked out for your daughter as they did for my son.

The only thing my daughter was ever aware of was that 3 of her so called "friends" moved to a different school, my daughter was unaware of the threats she was only in the second grade. If she were aware of any threats directly stated to her she never came to me about them.

What i heard was on my answering machine and i always listened to my messages via my handset, her dad heard them as well and i think he went in the bathroom and puked, thus i knew it was up to me to handle.

Because of the severity of the threats and the actual "knowledge" these 3 girls had of things in the sexual nature it would have been a nightmare for the "parents" had the principal not followed through with my request, i have no doubt cps would have gotten involved too, I just wanted these "girls" far the hell away from my kid...Now mind you it was my understanding all the parents were brought in and listened to the vile things their kids had threatened to do if they got their kids help i'm not aware of it.

I'm glad did what you did Laney, I firmly believe that its our jobs as parents to protect our young and ensure that the schools do the same. I also firmly believe that its our jobs as parents to teach our children to be kind to others.

ps. i have often been referred to as a Momma Bear...have no doubts lol
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ps. i have often been referred to as a Momma Bear...have no doubts lol
Thank you! What I did was NOT easy. I was hoping to give the kid a break & had heard that alternative schools can sometimes "grow" the bad in a child. I wanted that child to have a chance.

But, I also had to weigh the thought "what if things escalate & Col really gets hurt & I could have prevented it by turning this paper in?"

OMG it is impossible to explain how heavily the idea weighed upon me.

Oh, and I am a Mama Bear too. You are far better off if you hurt me than if you hurt my children or my pup.

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Thank you! What I did was NOT easy. I was hoping to give the kid a break & had heard that alternative schools can sometimes "grow" the bad in a child. I wanted that child to have a chance.

But, I also had to weigh the thought "what if things escalate & Col really gets hurt & I could have prevented it by turning this paper in?"

OMG it is impossible to explain how heavily the idea weighed upon me.

Oh, and I am a Mama Bear too. You are far better off if you hurt me than if you hurt my children or my pup.

Right??????
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Laney, Gea you two are great!! I agree that the school has an obligation to protect children but the overall responsibility is on the parents or guardians. Some parents, just refuse to take and active role in their child's upbringing. My most favorite line in any movie ever was from "Parenthood". When Keanu Reeves says to the mom "You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.
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What's even more disturbing is when these parents defend their child's behavior. Often it's a "my child would never do anything like that" kind of comment. And how would they know anyway? Half the time they have NO idea what their kid is doing, where they are and who they are hanging out with. I've seen this happen up close and personal. It's both sad and infuriating.
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