The Loft: Butches and Femmes in their 40s, 50s and over. - Page 34

miss entycing · 03-09-2010, 03:09 PM

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Entycing......... woHOo ty .. will keep that in mind. ummhmm interesting avatar .. lol id like to get some pix made kinda like that of me someday.
how close r u to charlotte?? sometimes I have parked over in Hartigans parking lot..... they let me camp out there.. lol
or sometimes i end up by Burlington. either way will keep you posted. thanx

about an hour and 20 min from Charlotte and 2 hours or so from Atlanta- right off of I-85..... and please do keep me posted!

afternoon Lofters...
hope y'all are having a good day- just sittin' here on the front porch, lovin' the warm weather again today...
anyways, have a lovely rest of the afternoon everybody!

Isadora · 03-09-2010, 04:02 PM

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

Jet · 03-09-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

but hey, you're visible here, heh

Isadora · 03-09-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

but hey, you're visible here, heh

wooo hoooooooo

Rockinonahigh · 03-09-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

Isadora,u and all the other femmes are definatly visable hear.But u have brought up a valid point cause this feeling of in visablity to our own home community happeneds to many older butches as well as femms.

ruthie14 · 03-09-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

Due to financial reasons I won't be able to go to the femme conference... but I find it disheartening to hear this. Maybe someone can start something before it is too late. Thanks for bringing this up Isa... we only get better as we age don't we! I am definately better at this age then any other!

Jet · 03-09-2010, 05:46 PM

i'm not invisible in the least nor do i feel as such, i'm happy to say.

Soft*Silver · 03-09-2010, 05:59 PM

Did you know I am working on a book about silver femmes and crone butches? I myself am a silver femme....I thought about offering a proposal on aging for that conference but I would never be able to pay for the fees, let alone the hotel....

I know that I have never felt prettier than I do now...and while people tell me that they love my silver hair, they themselves would NEVAH let their hair go grey. Age is such a taboo subject...

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Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

Soft*Silver · 03-09-2010, 06:02 PM

I wonder where all the silver back butches are...maybe they are not inclined to come out and challenge the youth oriented BF culture. I know that I have looked for 55 and older...and few are found...

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh

Isadora,u and all the other femmes are definatly visable hear.But u have brought up a valid point cause this feeling of in visablity to our own home community happeneds to many older butches as well as femms.

Martina · 03-09-2010, 06:04 PM

i went back and looked at the committee. Maybe no one over 50, but some amazing women in that group. i won't be attending either though even though i live nearby. i am kind of tired of gender ID politics and culture. Not finding them personally liberating right now. But i was impressed with that group.

Re the book softness is writing, totally cool. i do not not not want another ID category in my life though, so will not be adopting the silver femme one.

Jet · 03-09-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by softness

Did you know I am working on a book about silver femmes and crone butches?

Yes I remember, you asked to interview me for that book on the other site and I declined. I hope it's going well for you.

Isadora · 03-09-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Martina

i went back and looked at the committee. Maybe no one over 50, but some amazing women in that group. i won't be attending either though even though i live nearby. i am kind of tired of gender ID politics and culture. Not finding them personally liberating right now. But i was impressed with that group.

Re the book softness is writing, totally cool. i do not not not want another ID category in my life though, so will not be adopting the silver femme one.

I totally understand this...not much into it lately myself. I just find it interesting that probably no one is over 45. Amazing women do not make up for women over 50 being overlooked. I am not easily impressed anymore, just as women of color would not be impressed if they were ignored and left out, but that is me.

Liam · 03-09-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by softness

I wonder where all the silver back butches are...maybe they are not inclined to come out and challenge the youth oriented BF culture. I know that I have looked for 55 and older...and few are found...

Well I'm not 55 yet, and its not silver, its white, and oh yes, I'm not a butch.

Isadora · 03-09-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam

Well I'm not 55 yet, and its not silver, its white, and oh yes, I'm not a butch.

*S* I am over 55, pushin 60, and a redhead and not a butch either. *giggle*

Wryly · 03-09-2010, 06:48 PM

What is this conference you guys are talking about???
Is it part of the reunion in Little Rock?

Isadora · 03-09-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wryly

What is this conference you guys are talking about???
Is it part of the reunion in Little Rock?

No, it is not part of the reunion...
The Femme Collective proudly announces:
FEMME2010: No Restrictions
August 20--22nd
Oakland Marriott City Center
Oakland, CA

Wryly · 03-09-2010, 06:51 PM

Thank you Isadora.

Isadora · 03-09-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wryly

Thank you Isadora.

you are welcome

Rockinonahigh · 03-09-2010, 08:24 PM

This invisablity i'm speaking about is simply not finding a place to belong in the queer world I live in.Even as little as five years ago it wasnt this way,I knew many folks of diffrent ages and then age wasnt a facrtor in anything..not so with the new group that has come along.For one thay are either tweeners or andros or questioning ...cetanly the people who were even close to my age have either broken up and left town or gone underground,the fue I do see hear and there simply dont acknowledge other gay people when we meet in public..not everyone, but the majority.It has become a place of terratorial(sp?) boundries in every bar we have hear.If anyone is over a certan age its like u r in a void,I thought it was just where I live but i'm finding it's other places as well.I was talking to friends of mine who live in another city and they are finding the same prob where thay live.Looks l,ike if u r older u are to old to belong anywhere.

AtLast · 03-09-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh

This invisablity i'm speaking about is simply not finding a place to belong in the queer world I live in.Even as little as five years ago it wasnt this way,I knew many folks of diffrent ages and then age wasnt a facrtor in anything..not so with the new group that has come along.For one thay are either tweeners or andros or questioning ...cetanly the people who were even close to my age have either broken up and left town or gone underground,the fue I do see hear and there simply dont acknowledge other gay people when we meet in public..not everyone, but the majority.It has become a place of terratorial(sp?) boundries in every bar we have hear.If anyone is over a certan age its like u r in a void,I thought it was just where I live but i'm finding it's other places as well.I was talking to friends of mine who live in another city and they are finding the same prob where thay live.Looks l,ike if u r older u are to old to belong anywhere.

UGH! This sux!

I feel very fortunate that I am a butch queer living where I do.. about 20 minutes from SF. The lesbian, B-F, Trans, Gay communities are very representative of older folks (guess middle-aged on up is a better way to put it).

I believe you are having this problem where you live and wish it wasn't so.

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miss entycing Senior Member How Do You Identify?: dangerous, but worth the risk. Preferred Pronoun?: just be nice.. it's that easy. Relationship Status: CapitalM's carved upon my skin. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: on the southern edge of sanity, under a carolina moon. Posts: 3,276 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 8,341 Thanked 8,262 Times in 2,254 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	[QUOTE=morningstar55;63493][SIZE="3"] Entycing......... woHOo ty .. will keep that in mind. ummhmm interesting avatar .. lol id like to get some pix made kinda like that of me someday. how close r u to charlotte?? sometimes I have parked over in Hartigans parking lot..... they let me camp out there.. lol or sometimes i end up by Burlington. either way will keep you posted. thanx about an hour and 20 min from Charlotte and 2 hours or so from Atlanta- right off of I-85..... and please do keep me posted! afternoon Lofters... hope y'all are having a good day- just sittin' here on the front porch, lovin' the warm weather again today... anyways, have a lovely rest of the afternoon everybody! __________________ True strength lies in submission which permits one to dedicate their life, through devotion, to something beyond themselves. Whenever someone awakens fully, it affects human consciousness at a collective level. It is like dropping a stone into a dark murky pond. Ripples of light... Not one word need be spoken.

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Rockinonahigh Senior Member How Do You Identify?: stone butch Preferred Pronoun?: makes no diffrence,I know who I am. Relationship Status: single,maybe looking if the right person comes along. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 4,907 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,682 Thanked 14,933 Times in 3,938 Posts Rep Power: 21474856	New vs older: This invisablity i'm speaking about is simply not finding a place to belong in the queer world I live in.Even as little as five years ago it wasnt this way,I knew many folks of diffrent ages and then age wasnt a facrtor in anything..not so with the new group that has come along.For one thay are either tweeners or andros or questioning ...cetanly the people who were even close to my age have either broken up and left town or gone underground,the fue I do see hear and there simply dont acknowledge other gay people when we meet in public..not everyone, but the majority.It has become a place of terratorial(sp?) boundries in every bar we have hear.If anyone is over a certan age its like u r in a void,I thought it was just where I live but i'm finding it's other places as well.I was talking to friends of mine who live in another city and they are finding the same prob where thay live.Looks l,ike if u r older u are to old to belong anywhere.

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Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,286 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	i went back and looked at the committee. Maybe no one over 50, but some amazing women in that group. i won't be attending either though even though i live nearby. i am kind of tired of gender ID politics and culture. Not finding them personally liberating right now. But i was impressed with that group. Re the book softness is writing, totally cool. i do not not not want another ID category in my life though, so will not be adopting the silver femme one.

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