Do you *want* people to assume you're a man?

[macele]

i know what charming is talking about, and i know what bulldog is talking about. we are all just different and assuming is most often not a good thing to do.

truth. i like doing tomboy stuff. i'm not a man. i like being a woman. just because i have a ball cap on, ... don't assume i'm male. men don't own the patent to ball caps.

[CharmingButch25]

I went ahead and deleted my message, I dont want to cause drama in this thread,

What I said was misunderstood and I am sorry, have a good day all

Dressing masculine, I dunno Cajun, I dress in guys jeans,cargo shorts,t shirts, baseball cap, boxers,wifebeaters,v neck white shirts, I buy from the mens section,

[Corkey]

I am me, male ID's so for Me, yes, but my cloths don't make who I am, my brain does. Other folks not so much. Personal preferences are just that. Am I seen as a man in the world? Sometimes, until I turn sidewise, ya' just can't mistake the chesticals....

[DaddyNik12]

let see , yes i get called Sir alot in public , and I dress in mens clothing , shop in mens wear dept . yes I have the facial hair , have i takin t-shot ? NO ! but sometimes I think and react like a male ..but who doesnt ? each person can act and think in thier own way! some use the hy , he , boi , boy but as I said each to thier own and do i get double takeing looks ? bet your ass I do , do I care ? hell no ..I am me.:cigar

[Okiebug61]

Originally Posted by CharmingButch25

I went ahead and deleted my message, I dont want to cause drama in this thread,

What I said was misunderstood and I am sorry, have a good day all

Dressing masculine, I dunno Cajun, I dress in guys jeans,cargo shorts,t shirts, baseball cap, boxers,wifebeaters,v neck white shirts, I buy from the mens section,

I know this has been brought up before but I'll say it here. Referring to your tee-shirts as W**B###%# is not cool.

I wasn't born with a handbook that said I had to dress in certain clothes, and certain colors. It bothers me that along with gender assignment so many think the outer part has to meet the so called "normal" look.

[CharmingButch25]

I apologize if that reference offended you , I didn't realize but I dont like them being called that either I just didn't know what else they are called, tank tops I guess hope that's better , id take the reference out of my post but cant from my phone.

[CharmingButch25]

That was exactly what I was trying to say thank you ,Nik

[morningstar55]

When I and electrocell were together.....
if I had a dime everyone someone calls.hm a him, he, sir , my husband id b a millionaire ha
and I cant speak for hm , but it never ever bothered me to be around hm when ths happens .. I always felt comfy with hm .
I been put on the spot a lot of times others askng me y cell looks the way he does... my answer
He was born that way.
That usually ends the conversation

[morningstar55]

CrAps spider laThe PHONE!!!'

[jac]

I am continuously mistaken for male.... until they see my chest area. Then they backstep and apologize and blah blah blah. I don't dress nor act the part to be seen as male. I am me and I walk the streets as the person that I am comfortable being. If this is what most perceive to be male, then there ya go.... It doesn't bother me in the least to be called sir, buddy or male. I answer to any of it. I leave the interpretation of what is seen to the individual. If it makes the other person more comfortable to see me as male then fine, or female then fine. I know I am a female. I know I appear to be male.

Do I "want" people to assume I am a man? It really doesn't bother me in the least. I've never felt icky about it or bad, sad angry, in fact there are times it feels kinda good. Actually more often than not (when it happens).

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by morningstar55

When I and electrocell were together.....
if I had a dime everyone someone calls.hm a him, he, sir , my husband id b a millionaire ha
and I cant speak for hm , but it never ever bothered me to be around hm when ths happens .. I always felt comfy with hm .
I been put on the spot a lot of times others askng me y cell looks the way he does... my answer
He was born that way.
That usually ends the conversation

I can see where that would be comfy if said butch identified as man or is man (self-made ) etc.


But if said butch didn't then a polite correction is gonna happen because people either forget or weren't taught that masculinity is not for just "man".


Butch woman is a perfect example of female masculinity at it's finest, that's where we go wrong with that whole gender assigning crap!!

[DaddyNik12]

your welcome Charming

[stephfromMIT]

Island-I have many Militia teamates who are butch, though I don't think they male ID.

[Rockinonahigh]

No I do not wish to be thought of as a man,i'm just being me and wearing clothes that I feel best in.Yes i'm a masculine butch woman that often gets called sir a lot,no it dosent bother me because often people take a second look then I get sorry mam with a red face,or they sort of stutter with confuson.Going to the bathroom is a trick cause I often get the look like i'm in the wrong place..I just go on a take care of buisness,wash my hands then out the door I go.
Now haveing said this I will say in certain circles if I had said this out loud or on the site I would have been blasted then called out for it.Admitting you were a butch woman and not wanting to be seen as a male wouold have been sacriligouos(sp?.sorry)

[Corkey]

A lines or tanks are perfectly acceptable.

The thing with assuming is this, it presupposes, often wrongly so. I'm sure everyone has heard of the quote, "to assume makes an ass out of you and me." Don't assume, if one doesn't know ask, respectfully.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by CharmingButch25

I apologize if that reference offended you , I didn't realize but I dont like them being called that either I just didn't know what else they are called, tank tops I guess hope that's better , id take the reference out of my post but cant from my phone.

Hi

I'm gonna help you out since no one else has, the t-shirts are called A Line shirts, tank tops, or better yet Wife Pleasers

OOPS I'm on my phone didn't see where folks helped you out!!!!


Thanks everyone!

[CharmingButch25]

Thank you Lady, I really didn't mean to offend anyone.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by CharmingButch25

Thank you Lady, I really didn't mean to offend anyone.

Hang in there CB! It's rough but you'll catch on quick!

[Daywalker]

I don't 'pass' unless someone thinks
they teleported back to Woodstock.

[CherylNYC]

Originally Posted by CharmingButch25

I apologize if that reference offended you , I didn't realize but I dont like them being called that either I just didn't know what else they are called, tank tops I guess hope that's better , id take the reference out of my post but cant from my phone.

The official name for those shirts is A Shirt. I always cringe when I hear them being called the more common name, and I do wish people would stop using it, but most people will have NO idea what you're talking about when you say "A Shirt".