Words and Phrases That Need to Die

[Cin]

Originally Posted by candy_coated_bitch

<--------stopping now, seriously

You could say "that is all"
because that's not overused.

[candy_coated_bitch]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

You could say "that is all"
because that's not overused.

Whatevs...

[DapperButch]

Walmarts and Kmarts. Those words are like nails on a chalkboard.... (oh, and yeah, I guess that is one to get rid of too).

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by dameonboy

using the word "ideal" instead of idea..

like.. "That's a great ideal."

UGH!!!!

I used to get a lot of 'idears' from people in TX.

No.

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

For all intensive purposes – what does that mean? For reasons that have a high degree of emotional excitement or depth of feeling?

I grew up with it being 'for all intents and purposes'. I've never heard it as 'intensive purposes'. That makes no sense. The former makes sense, but it's not a frequently used phrase anymore, is it?

For the record, you are very, very strange. But it's a likeable strange, not a serial killer kind of strange.

[TruTexan]

the word "YO" as in someone saying YO YO hold up a min.I can't stand it, it just rubs me sideways........eeeerrrrkkkk.

[*Anya*]

Origin

When researching the development of a phrase it is usually the origin that is difficult to determine; the spelling and the meaning are generally pretty well established. With 'for (or to) all intents and purposes' it is the other way about. The origin is unambiguous, as the first recorded use was in an Act of Parliament under Henry VIII, in 1546:

"to all intents, constructions, and purposes"

Henry didn't shilly-shally when it came to the law of England. In 1539, he had Parliament pass the Statute of Proclamations, which gave him power to legislate by proclamation. In effect, from that date, the law was 'to all intents and purposes' whatever Henry VIII said it was. He made good use of this freedom; as well as executing a brace of wives, many others with whom Henry didn't see eye to eye were hanged, beheaded, burned or boiled, often for quite minor offences.

The meaning of 'to all intents and purposes' is less clear. 'Intents' and 'purposes' are words that we aren't likely to come across very often in the 21st century, outside of legal documents. The phrase, like many a legal phrase before and since, is rather obtuse and difficult to decipher. What is meant when a thing is said to be true 'for all intents and purposes' is 'it isn't actually true but it it so close to being so that we may proceed as though it is'. An example may help:

Isaac Newton's Laws of Motion aren't 100% precise in describing the motion of objects that approach the speed of light. However, for a man on a horse who measures time by a pocket watch, they are, for all intents and purposes, accurate.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/a...-purposes.html

[candy_coated_bitch]

Thanks, Anya.

I also say "for all intents an purposes" a lot, and think I have said it with the correct meaning although I did not know the history of the phrase. As a saying I find it to be useful.

People saying "for all intensive purposes" and having no idear how wrong they are is, indeed, highly annoying. But when I thought about it more I enjoyed the thought of using "for all intensive purposes" LITERALLY. I think that could be funny.

[Cin]

Originally Posted by Gemme

I grew up with it being 'for all intents and purposes'. I've never heard it as 'intensive purposes'. That makes no sense. The former makes sense, but it's not a frequently used phrase anymore, is it?

Well, yes, the correct terminology is indeed for all intents and purposes. However, I have heard some people over the years say for all intensive purposes. I would like that phrase to die.

And if for all intents and purposes is not frequently used anymore, I guess I'm behind the times because i do use it a bit.

Also from the same post I understand the correct terminology is not suppository of information but is instead repository of information. I only know one person who says that and he also says self defecating humor. So maybe it's an anal kind of fixation. But I still wish he would stop.

Originally Posted by Gemme

For the record, you are very, very strange. But it's a likeable strange, not a serial killer kind of strange.

Oh. Two verys. Very, very. That's can't be good.

Likable though. That's good.

Thanks. I guess.