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Old 04-24-2010, 04:20 PM   #1
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How anyone can believe that this doesn't constitute racial profiling is beyond comprehension!

There is a part of me, however, that thinks that this action in AZ might actually end up positive in the long run (no, not the bigoted legislation). How can we possibly keep our heads buried in the sand nationwide at this point? Obviously, the constitutionality of this act will be investigated and I think it will be struck down.

Also, maybe some common sense (and hopefully, compassionate) immigration reform will come out of this. We do need to deal with these issues. There are people being treated like nothing by large argri-business as well as human trafficking assbites that only have $ on their minds.

Frankly, I think all illegal’s here now should be granted amnesty, period! Let them become tax paying, citizens that don't have to live in fear and be controlled by drug cartels and gangs! My thoughts are that if the fear they have is eradicated, we would have hard-working citizens that in the end will bring solutions to the table for immigration reform that will work. They need to be legitimate participants in the process. They are here, have been, and have a lot to offer as has been true of every single immigrant group in our history.

I know there are high numbers of Latinos that are against amnesty because they came to the US legally. And the economic times have really stoked the fires between legal and illegal immigrants. I get that, but it just seems to me that there are answers here, mainly by the Latino populations in the US themselves and frankly, I think the powers that be need to focus on what the various Latino groups have to say- and we might get somewhere. Not to mention I am sick and tired of migrant workers being treated as non-human and want them to be a legitimate part of organized labor and be able to work under humane conditions with descent wages and benefits!! You bet, I remember Caesar Chavez! Long live his legacy and contributions.

Seems like compromises among all of us have to happen in order to make a difference with immigration reform…

Just another knee-jerk liberal, here…. But I just can’t handle the cruelty and degradation going on… people dying in truck and train cars en mass (just trying to survive) makes me sick! Also, I am a Californian that believes that the state was formed illegitimately in relationship to Mexico in the beginning. can't speak for AZ or other border states.. don't have the knowledge base.
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Yanno I hate to remind you all

It's not just the *latinos* breaking and entering into this country... We are just easier to pick out... Now how you think this may end in a positive note I dunno..

Here is what *I* am afraid is gonna happen

Some poor brown person (they could be any nationality) is gonna get pulled over, get upset, get scared, they are gonna get tagged as irate and not being cooperative and they will end up hurt or dead..

THAT is not something I think should happen before someone has an *A-ha* moment...

Also don't forget those latinos could have been there hundreds of years, like everything else this country took the land from them...

Funny how that is forgotten..
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It's not just the *latinos* breaking and entering into this country... We are just easier to pick out... Now how you think this may end in a positive note I dunno..

Here is what *I* am afraid is gonna happen

Some poor brown person (they could be any nationality) is gonna get pulled over, get upset, get scared, they are gonna get tagged as irate and not being cooperative and they will end up hurt or dead..

THAT is not something I think should happen before someone has an *A-ha* moment...

Also don't forget those latinos could have been there hundreds of years, like everything else this country took the land from them...

Funny how that is forgotten..
Yup... there are many immigrant groups, but the indigenous peoples remain hidden, marginalized and forgotten... always have been. Also, the indigenous nature of Latinos gets forgotten (all the way to South American and Spanish roots)... as well as all Native American peoples. Hell, simply 20th Century immigration history (during the teens and early 1920's- but do go back to the late 1800's), and the conditions that the Irish, Italian, German, Chinese, Japanese, etc. (and how radicalization was applied) ought to bring us to truths about WASP group-think! Add black slavery and we have a pretty sad picture! The bigoted mind-set of racial and ethnic thinking in the WASP ridden USA is actually alive and well. Which is the center of the damn problem!

Hummm... now what have many said about historical bias? and the different types of historians that gain respect and are quoted most often in the US?

What I get so frustrated about is that it just feels like we don’t just take action! How long do we put up with this stuff? Frankly, I don't have much faith in the masses to educate themselves- they don't give a flying fuck. How can we get to dealing effectively with this?
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The Gov. may have just signed this bill but problems in AZ have been going on for quite some time. The *Border Checkpoints* nowhere near the borders are stripping away Fourth Amendment rights from citizens every day.

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The Gov. may have just signed this bill but problems in AZ have been going on for quite some time. The *Border Checkpoints* nowhere near the borders are stripping away Fourth Amendment rights from citizens every day.

Looking forward to more of this bullshit happening, LEGALLY...

How no one can see how this is outright racism I don't know..

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Maybe this was posted before, but I found it to be a succinct article explaining this whole shitty and racist law.
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actually this is the tempe (local) pastor, originally from sacramento that prays that Obama and gays will die. (and to be clear he's got like zero congregation.)

what? you can't believe we've got all this going on in one little state?!

i guess he didn't fit in in california. (what's left of my humor is now *totally* gone--i can't believe they're piggybacking this freak onto the issue at hand...)

more from pastor stevens:

here's one of MANY videos on youtube where he says all the most hateful words against the country and gays and some opposing church, methodists piss him off, apparently. (he wants the death penalty for gays, no i wish i was joking)



like i said, anytime anyone wants to come down and protest the racism, the homophobia, the general state of *arizona* i shall HOST you and yours in my home, so come on down to where the work needs to be done!!

(on the upside we have a sprinkles cupcakes just 2 miles from us, and a barneys!)




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Looking forward to more of this bullshit happening, LEGALLY...

How no one can see how this is outright racism I don't know..

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But I have the militia.

And a state constitutional amendment not only banning gay marriage, but also banning domestic partner benefits.

And the Detroit Lions.

So, I think we're even.





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actually this is the tempe (local) pastor, originally from sacramento that prays that Obama and gays will die. (and to be clear he's got like zero congregation.)

what? you can't believe we've got all this going on in one little state?!

i guess he didn't fit in in california. (what's left of my humor is now *totally* gone--i can't believe they're piggybacking this freak onto the issue at hand...)

more from pastor stevens:

here's one of MANY videos on youtube where he says all the most hateful words against the country and gays and some opposing church, methodists piss him off, apparently. (he wants the death penalty for gays, no i wish i was joking)



like i said, anytime anyone wants to come down and protest the racism, the homophobia, the general state of *arizona* i shall HOST you and yours in my home, so come on down to where the work needs to be done!!

(on the upside we have a sprinkles cupcakes just 2 miles from us, and a barneys!)
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like i said, anytime anyone wants to come down and protest the racism, the homophobia, the general state of *arizona* i shall HOST you and yours in my home, so come on down to where the work needs to be done!!

(on the upside we have a sprinkles cupcakes just 2 miles from us, and a barneys!)
I just pee'd myself with shame.

Can me and Cal still come over for some cupcakes and a tazing?
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Looking forward to more of this bullshit happening, LEGALLY...

How no one can see how this is outright racism I don't know..

Crypt Keeper she is not, he was not real, this scary bitch is... and THAT is worse...

Very scary and this type of person is all around us jumping for joy at AZ's new legislation. And take note at congressional members like John McCain that actually authored federal legislation in the not so distant past that opposses the AZ bill! Oh, yes, that's right, he's up for re-election... in AZ!!! But, it isn't just AZ. How many border states (Mexican border) are going to be pushing for bills just like this one?
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I changed the channel...
I aint watchin' cnn or msnbc today...
my BP's feelin fucked at the moment...
Got enuff with the Weather being all "wizard of oz".
And I do agree with Snow, that bitch lost any respectable words I could possibly give her simply based on Gender when she signed a Carte Blanche for Arizona Cops to go after anyone they felt was Illegal, considering how things are down there, My guess is anyone that's Brown & makes a Cop twitch....
Crypt Keeper's too fuckin' Nice for her...I liked the crypt keeper lol..
And , if it were a Wrinkly ole white haired Man, I'd still insult his ass if he did the same shit.....
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I'd be interested in knowing if law enforcement groups endorsed this new law or were they opposed to it? If they opposed it, it just further supports that this was a dumb political move for Brewer. It is stuff like this that swings law enforcement support in elections to the Democrats. If she is pandering to a narrow band of conservatives in her party, what has she accomplished? As a politician, she's shot herself in the foot twice -- once with Latino voters and maybe again with law enforcement.
see my post #13 ...........I listed a couple of articles about police support and non-support .........plus a summary of the bill......
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This was never about respect based on gender; it was about avoiding disrespect based on gender. Or age. This governor loses our respect solely based on her racist policies. To announce derision based on these other, peripheral and unrelated things opens a dangerous door.

If I disagreed with someone here, would it be okay for me to say something like: What a disgusting tranny? Or what an ignorant femme slut bag? Making these things personal is untenable to me. And anyone who knows me personally knows that I believe this. It is my personal politic.

Okay. Moving on.
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This was never about respect based on gender; it was about avoiding disrespect based on gender. Or age. This governor loses our respect solely based on her racist policies. To announce derision based on these other, peripheral and unrelated things opens a dangerous door.

If I disagreed with someone here, would it be okay for me to say something like: What a disgusting tranny? Or what an ignorant femme slut bag? Making these things personal is untenable to me. And anyone who knows me personally knows that I believe this. It is my personal politic.

Okay. Moving on.

You could always start a thread about it!!
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