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Old 07-17-2010, 04:32 PM   #381
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Thank you, Linus. I know you started this back in November, but this is scary because I know I am going to fuck up at some point and hurt someones feelings, and that's not my intent at all. I'm not making excuses in advance, I am just acknowleging that it might happen, and I'm worried.
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transphobia, physical and verbal abuse: Doesn't matter. They're both shit. And I've had my share. As such, I won't get close to anyone.
Not femmes, not transguys, not family, no one. Thanks for the kind note AZ.
I am sorry you went through that, I hope someday you will let someone get close to you.
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I'll never forget what my dear ex said to me one time about transwomen....."It's not right. It's like the ultimate voyeurism perpetrated on (cis??) women."

I had to do an awful lot of processing, reconciling and forgiving to overcome the myriad of feelings I had about that statement. I still am at odds with the hurtful feelings I have about it, but I've made a lot of progress during the last 8 years since she's been gone.

There were only two topics we ever discussed that made me wonder if she and I were ever really good people. The trans issue, particularly against transwomen was one and my sense of American pride and patriotism was the other (this was based on a remark she made to me following the 9/11 tragedy).

People come and go in our lives. I truly believe that they do so in order that we all might learn and grow from each other. As much as I loved my ex, and as horribly sad and lost as I felt after she walked out, I realize now how much I've grown and evolved. I've even had the courage to get to know, accept and love myself....and now I'm able to live my life fully and truthfully.

Parker, my friend, I really hope you don't shut us, your friends, out. I think you're going to find your perfect love one of these days, and you know what?? She won't change you. You will change you. When love is healthy and right, it lifts you up and brings power to you....power like you've never known it before. You will move mountains in your life, do things you never dreamed you could do, and then everything will make sense. I wish this for you. I wish you a strong, healthy, steadfast and devoted love. I wish you strength. (Maybe I'm taking things for granted here a bit, but I have a strange feeling, in a very good way, about you. I think the best....the very best....is yet to come for you. You are on the right road, my brother.)

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I'll never forget what my dear ex said to me one time about transwomen....."It's not right. It's like the ultimate voyeurism perpetrated on (cis??) women."

I had to do an awful lot of processing, reconciling and forgiving to overcome the myriad of feelings I had about that statement. I still am at odds with the hurtful feelings I have about it, but I've made a lot of progress during the last 8 years since she's been gone.

There were only two topics we ever discussed that made me wonder if she and I were ever really good people. The trans issue, particularly against transwomen was one and my sense of American pride and patriotism was the other (this was based on a remark she made to me following the 9/11 tragedy).

People come and go in our lives. I truly believe that they do so in order that we all might learn and grow from each other. As much as I loved my ex, and as horribly sad and lost as I felt after she walked out, I realize now how much I've grown and evolved. I've even had the courage to get to know, accept and love myself....and now I'm able to live my life fully and truthfully.

Parker, my friend, I really hope you don't shut us, your friends, out. I think you're going to find your perfect love one of these days, and you know what?? She won't change you. You will change you. When love is healthy and right, it lifts you up and brings power to you....power like you've never known it before. You will move mountains in your life, do things you never dreamed you could do, and then everything will make sense. I wish this for you. I wish you a strong, healthy, steadfast and devoted love. I wish you strength. (Maybe I'm taking things for granted here a bit, but I have a strange feeling, in a very good way, about you. I think the best....the very best....is yet to come for you. You are on the right road, my brother.)

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Thanks Theo. You've always been a champ, and I'm grateful. i don't want anybody in my life. I'm a loner and it'll stay that way. at 53 I'm squaring away with this. No body gets close, Theo..nobody. But you're a kind and good-hearted man. I appreciate your input. Just so you know.
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Ok so I have been on Androgel for 10 1/2 weeks and since I started I have found it harder to go to sleep. Has anyone else had this issue? I already have sleep issues and I am not at all sure it is related to the T, I am just curious if there is a connection.
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when do you apply it? I know my shots if I take them too late in the day i can't settle down. If I remember correctly I had the same effects with the creme so only did it in the mornings ... If I forgot to put in on before noon I just waited to the next day because it wasn't worth the sleep problems
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when do you apply it? I know my shots if I take them too late in the day i can't settle down. If I remember correctly I had the same effects with the creme so only did it in the mornings ... If I forgot to put in on before noon I just waited to the next day because it wasn't worth the sleep problems
I apply it first thing when I wake up.
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I apply it first thing when I wake up.
it still could bother you I just didn't notice it maybe cause i don't have a lot of energy in the mornings to begin with so if anything it maybe brought me up to normal speed, but by night i didn't feel it
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Welp. I ordered a new STP to try, STP-Fitz. So far, the experience has been stellar. I received a notification that it was to be sent out today (I had let him know I'm moving at the end of August and wanted to be sure I'd receive it before then).

The design is interesting and may be better for me. If this doesn't work, I may resort to the "coffee lid" option. I just cannot get the medicine spoon option to work for me.
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Hey guys I have a couple questions and knew this would be the place to ask.
I'm getting ready to invest in a pack and a binder-t-shirt.
Ok...question #1...the soft-pack im looking at comes w a sack option..BUT...it says it's to be held onto your boxers with a safety pin.The thought unsettles me as I have this great talent to majickly unhook the saftey pins and stick myself.(It never fails.) And i really don't want a harness.
Sould I just invest into more boxerbriefs?
Second question...The binder shirts...Do I still need to wear a bra if I'm wearing the binder? I'm looking for ANY excuse to not have to wear those torture devices anymore.

Thanks guys!!!


Oh!!! And before I forget...I start therapy on August 11th. I could dance I'm so excited.
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Hey guys I have a couple questions and knew this would be the place to ask.
I'm getting ready to invest in a pack and a binder-t-shirt.
Ok...question #1...the soft-pack im looking at comes w a sack option..BUT...it says it's to be held onto your boxers with a safety pin.The thought unsettles me as I have this great talent to majickly unhook the saftey pins and stick myself.(It never fails.) And i really don't want a harness.
Sould I just invest into more boxerbriefs?
Second question...The binder shirts...Do I still need to wear a bra if I'm wearing the binder? I'm looking for ANY excuse to not have to wear those torture devices anymore.

Thanks guys!!!


Oh!!! And before I forget...I start therapy on August 11th. I could dance I'm so excited.
Hey Tuff, right on. Therapy is an important step. Glad to hear you are making progress.

Good news! You don't wear a bra with a binder. The binder replaces that. Bad news, sometimes binders can hurt and dig in if you have one that doesn't fit right. Be careful about getting the right fit.

As for the packer, I would say sew the pouch into your boxers. Just buy several pouches, they can't be that expensive, and sew them to all your boxers.

Hope this helps.

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Hey guys I have a couple questions and knew this would be the place to ask.
I'm getting ready to invest in a pack and a binder-t-shirt.
Ok...question #1...the soft-pack im looking at comes w a sack option..BUT...it says it's to be held onto your boxers with a safety pin.The thought unsettles me as I have this great talent to majickly unhook the saftey pins and stick myself.(It never fails.) And i really don't want a harness.
Sould I just invest into more boxerbriefs?
Second question...The binder shirts...Do I still need to wear a bra if I'm wearing the binder? I'm looking for ANY excuse to not have to wear those torture devices anymore.

Thanks guys!!!


Oh!!! And before I forget...I start therapy on August 11th. I could dance I'm so excited.
I'd say save the time and effort and just invest in more boxerbriefs, it may even save you a few bucks depending on what you buy...but then I'm biased towards boxerbriefs as more comfortable than boxers, so if you really prefer the boxers go with atomic's suggestion.

Atomic's right on about getting the sizing right. Are you going to be picking it up in a local store or online? If you can get into a local shop that sells them instead, that would be your best option in finding one that fits properly. Even with the sizing charts you can end up with one that doesn't fit over your shoulders or something, which is what happened the first time I bought one (apparently I suck at measuring my own shoulders), though luckily they let me try it on in the store so I didn't have to go home to find that out.

Congrats on starting therapy, btw
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Sould I just invest into more boxerbriefs?
My solution, for what it's worth... And I give my wife full credit for this brilliant idea!

I wear briefs. Now picture the pouch/opening part of briefs.

I use a piece of iron-on seaming tape to close off the inside opening.

On the outside opening, I iron on a small piece of velcro Fabric Fusion.

Put on your drawers, open the velcro closure, insert your packer, and close it up.

The velcro closure keeps it from popping out the front, and the seaming tape closure keeps it from coming out inside your underwear. The whole thing keeps my packer off the bathroom floor (yes, this has happened more than once).

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**Make sure you get IRON-ON......not sew-in kind.
**Take your time and do it right, and they'll last for a long time.
**I'm not a big fan of Fruit of the Loom briefs for this. The pouch part isn't quite wide enough.
**Both iron-on products can be found at Walmart.

Packing has become a lot less stressful for me since fixin' up my undies this way! Happy packing!!
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My solution, for what it's worth... And I give my wife full credit for this brilliant idea!

I wear briefs. Now picture the pouch/opening part of briefs.

I use a piece of iron-on seaming tape to close off the inside opening.

On the outside opening, I iron on a small piece of velcro Fabric Fusion.

Put on your drawers, open the velcro closure, insert your packer, and close it up.

The velcro closure keeps it from popping out the front, and the seaming tape closure keeps it from coming out inside your underwear. The whole thing keeps my packer off the bathroom floor (yes, this has happened more than once).

Note:

**Make sure you get IRON-ON......not sew-in kind.
**Take your time and do it right, and they'll last for a long time.
**I'm not a big fan of Fruit of the Loom briefs for this. The pouch part isn't quite wide enough.
**Both iron-on products can be found at Walmart.

Packing has become a lot less stressful for me since fixin' up my undies this way! Happy packing!!
Thanks thinker,

I had wonder how well the iron-on stuff would work for this, already have some.

Just don't know why I hadn't even tried ... go figure.
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I usually use boxer briefs without a seam in front with my packy.. here is a link to a site with some picts of what I'm talking about: http://www.urbanbody.com/designer/Clever+Underwear

Not promotting that site, lol.. Just want to give an example.. I guess the best place to find this type of undies would be online or at a "gay boy" store. Most of these undies have a built in pouch so that someone's junk is all cushy and up front.. The cut in back also makes your butt look FANtastic.. lol

I also found these combo athletic supporter/brief at wal-mart a few years back.. that works great.. Jocks with the opening for the cup.. This all helps keep your junk in place, although, the gay boy briefs should be snug and you are still on the loose when you have to use the bathroom..

Just my input

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I just love it. I had kind of given up on packing just because it was a pain to keep track of the damn thing......especially when going to the restroom.

I thought about jocks and specialty packer socks, but I really didn't want to add another layer.....even if it was just another waistband.

Also, I don't have any sort of strong yearning to pee in a urinal; so this type of set up works well for me. That may change one day; but for now, I'm all set.

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Thanks thinker,

I had wonder how well the iron-on stuff would work for this, already have some.

Just don't know why I hadn't even tried ... go figure.
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I usually use boxer briefs without a seam in front with my packy.. here is a link to a site with some picts of what I'm talking about: http://www.urbanbody.com/designer/Clever+Underwear

Not promotting that site, lol.. Just want to give an example.. I guess the best place to find this type of undies would be online or at a "gay boy" store. Most of these undies have a built in pouch so that someone's junk is all cushy and up front.. The cut in back also makes your butt look FANtastic.. lol

I also found these combo athletic supporter/brief at wal-mart a few years back.. that works great.. Jocks with the opening for the cup.. This all helps keep your junk in place, although, the gay boy briefs should be snug and you are still on the loose when you have to use the bathroom..

Just my input

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Hi again guys...


This is what I have goin on so far...

The package has been packaged and is on its way. LMAO

Luckily I have a seemtress for a GF and showed her the suggestion for the boxerbriefs and she said no problem.

I have also made a mental note...junk on the bathroom floor isn't a good thing.

The "urban" site was AWESOME!!! Thanks!!!

And also a HUGE thanks to everyone for their suggestion, comments and support. I would be at a bit of a loss with out it.
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My solution, for what it's worth... And I give my wife full credit for this brilliant idea!

I wear briefs. Now picture the pouch/opening part of briefs.

I use a piece of iron-on seaming tape to close off the inside opening.

On the outside opening, I iron on a small piece of velcro Fabric Fusion.

Put on your drawers, open the velcro closure, insert your packer, and close it up.

The velcro closure keeps it from popping out the front, and the seaming tape closure keeps it from coming out inside your underwear. The whole thing keeps my packer off the bathroom floor (yes, this has happened more than once).

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**Make sure you get IRON-ON......not sew-in kind.
**Take your time and do it right, and they'll last for a long time.
**I'm not a big fan of Fruit of the Loom briefs for this. The pouch part isn't quite wide enough.
**Both iron-on products can be found at Walmart.

Packing has become a lot less stressful for me since fixin' up my undies this way! Happy packing!!
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I usually use boxer briefs without a seam in front with my packy.. here is a link to a site with some picts of what I'm talking about: http://www.urbanbody.com/designer/Clever+Underwear

Not promotting that site, lol.. Just want to give an example.. I guess the best place to find this type of undies would be online or at a "gay boy" store. Most of these undies have a built in pouch so that someone's junk is all cushy and up front.. The cut in back also makes your butt look FANtastic.. lol

I also found these combo athletic supporter/brief at wal-mart a few years back.. that works great.. Jocks with the opening for the cup.. This all helps keep your junk in place, although, the gay boy briefs should be snug and you are still on the loose when you have to use the bathroom..

Just my input

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This is how I pack, too, but has anyone been through one of those airport body scanners while packing in this manner? Does anyone know if your packer would 'pass'? I've also wondered about a packer passing in an MRI machine, so if anyone knows, I'm eager to hear about that, too.
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This is how I pack, too, but has anyone been through one of those airport body scanners while packing in this manner? Does anyone know if your packer would 'pass'? I've also wondered about a packer passing in an MRI machine, so if anyone knows, I'm eager to hear about that, too.
I've not had any issues with packing and flying.
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