Small Plane Crashes in Austin Tx

[~Bo]

Ok.....so then tell me what good did it do. Does it solve the problems you're talking about? No. Didn't do a damn thing but take innocent lives.

And talking about the wars is a whole other issue. This is about some ass flying a plane into a building. Period. And that's all I am concerned with. You can come up with all the excuses you want to. What he did was chicken shit and cowardice.

Why didn't he just face life like a man. What he did proves nothing and solves nothing.

[Sachita]

Originally Posted by ~Bo

Ok.....so then tell me what good did it do. Does it solve the problems you're talking about? No. Didn't do a damn thing but take innocent lives.

And talking about the wars is a whole other issue. This is about some ass flying a plane into a building. Period. And that's all I am concerned with. You can come up with all the excuses you want to. What he did was chicken shit and cowardice.

Why didn't he just face life like a man. What he did proves nothing and solves nothing.

period is operative in a manner of opinion and obviously , , each person has one, even you. Aside from the prevalent bullshit herein, the facts all remain, the debate, as always diversified and the only thing we all agree on is that it was not cool, what he did, BUT he did it. The differences are that some call him a coward and others have various agendas or words for a man that took such action. I'm on the fence but leaning in his favor, not because what I think he was right BUT that he actually fucking did it. I am the the fuckimg coward because I'd never have the fucking guts to commit sucks an act.

those are my words and I'm sticking to it!

[SuperFemme]

That we can call her for help. She could've gotten him down to a few bucks. Geeze.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acaLSpE6XZE"]YouTube- Roni Lynn Deutch[/ame]

[Kimbo]

Originally Posted by Sachita

period is operative in a manner of opinion and obviously , , each person has one, even you. Aside from the prevalent bullshit herein, the facts all remain, the debate, as always diversified and the only thing we all agree on is that it was not cool, what he did, BUT he did it. The differences are that some call him a coward and others have various agendas or words for a man that took such action. I'm on the fence but leaning in his favor, not because what I think he was right BUT that he actually fucking did it. I am the the fuckimg coward because I'd never have the fucking guts to commit sucks an act.

those are my words and I'm sticking to it!

I am really struggling understanding your words here, I'd like to discuss this with you if I may. To me is sounds like what you are saying is that if you have uncontrollable anger over <insert cause here> that it is okay to release that anger with violence on innocent people.

When I hear this I think of Columbine, suicide bombers (9/11), Timothy McVeigh, and 4 police officers here in the PNW having morning coffee who were gunned down by an angry criminal. Isn't some of the psychology of of these murders is that they become hero's because of their actions. Are you saying that it wasn't right that these people committed heinous crimes, but that they are somehow to be respected because they "actually did it?" Isn't that idolizing them? Is that really what he deserves?

[Hudson]

Originally Posted by Sachita

period is operative in a manner of opinion and obviously , , each person has one, even you. Aside from the prevalent bullshit herein, the facts all remain, the debate, as always diversified and the only thing we all agree on is that it was not cool, what he did, BUT he did it. The differences are that some call him a coward and others have various agendas or words for a man that took such action. I'm on the fence but leaning in his favor, not because what I think he was right BUT that he actually fucking did it. I am the the fuckimg coward because I'd never have the fucking guts to commit sucks an act.

those are my words and I'm sticking to it!

This might be the most illogical, misguided and scariest thing I've ever read (from an adult).

Back to the story: Why didn't he fly that plane over the IRS building and into Mama Mexico, obtain a second passport from his new country before his U.S. one expired (to avoid having to provide his social security number when renewing his passport, thus avoiding cross-checks with tax returns), grab a bottle of tequila and call it a day?

[Ashlea?]

What is the logic here really?
For all of you "quick-draw" insulter's, let me first point out my stance on this subject, AGAIN, as to avoid the onslaught of poo about to be flung my way.

I think the way this went about is being gravely misunderstood, as well as the motives and or reasoning behind this event.

*Prepares*

2 deaths (including pilot), 1 injury. Where is your uproar about murders happening all.......the.......time. Where is your defensive stance and pseudo-intellect thrashing when others are innocently killed? Nothing? No?

I don't hear you prancing around about the wife and 2 kids murdered with an axe by the husband. Is that not worthy of your rage? Where is it?

Where is your rage while people are being murdered by our own government, admittedly! Gitmo? Where! Where is your rage!

This man killed someone, that death is significant no matter the circumstance. But with the slew of evidence surrounding this case, is it not reasonable to think this intelligent man was not out on a killing spree, but rather made a series of bad decisions. No where is there evidence of him WANTING to kill people, no mention of it at all. Targeting the institution, yes, people, where? Are you really going to try and speculate on a dead man's final decisions? What gives you that right? Speculate all you want..."Why didn't he go to the other building, why not at another time, why why why"...it will never be answered.

Change has become the big bad boogie man of this country. No one wants to accept the events taking place by this government against its own citizens, this would mean change.

But no no, don't do anything about it. Sit back with your chair and your screen, and your Mcdonalds and your car and your job. It can't touch you! No no. Change is not in your vocabulary. You'll sit there while your job is being outsourced, your family..starving, as long as the government gives you the scraps from their spoils, your happy. Mhm.

When......WHEN is America going to wake up. WHAT WILL IT TAKE! I'm ashamed to be a citizen of this country. I'll say it. But when the shit hits the fan, and you finally all say "oh.................", i'm going to laugh. I'm going to laugh at you like I have never laughed before in my life. Call it cynical, thats ok. I think it will be to hard to control the laughter swelling up inside of me when you all realized that you over looked the worst travesties happening to you. And you just sit there. Just sit there and take it like the good puppet you are.


Let the "your wrong" and the "I still pay my taxes and have my job,car,money" bs kick in. I'm ready for it. Bring it on fools.

(Disclaimer : By "you", I mean every.....last.....one of you.)

*EDIT*
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/...ovt/index.html
^ Wanna hop on the band wagon on this one? Or............

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

What is the logic here really?
For all of you "quick-draw" insulter's, let me first point out my stance on this subject, AGAIN, as to avoid the onslaught of poo about to be flung my way.

I think the way this went about is being gravely misunderstood, as well as the motives and or reasoning behind this event.

*Prepares*

2 deaths (including pilot), 1 injury. Where is your uproar about murders happening all.......the.......time. Where is your defensive stance and pseudo-intellect thrashing when others are innocently killed? Nothing? No?

I don't hear you prancing around about the wife and 2 kids murdered with an axe by the husband. Is that not worthy of your rage? Where is it?

Where is your rage while people are being murdered by our own government, admittedly! Gitmo? Where! Where is your rage!

This man killed someone, that death is significant no matter the circumstance. But with the slew of evidence surrounding this case, is it not reasonable to think this intelligent man was not out on a killing spree, but rather made a series of bad decisions. No where is there evidence of him WANTING to kill people, no mention of it at all. Targeting the institution, yes, people, where? Are you really going to try and speculate on a dead man's final decisions? What gives you that right? Speculate all you want..."Why didn't he go to the other building, why not at another time, why why why"...it will never be answered.

Change has become the big bad boogie man of this country. No one wants to accept the events taking place by this government against its own citizens, this would mean change.

But no no, don't do anything about it. Sit back with your chair and your screen, and your Mcdonalds and your car and your job. It can't touch you! No no. Change is not in your vocabulary. You'll sit there while your job is being outsourced, your family..starving, as long as the government gives you the scraps from their spoils, your happy. Mhm.

When......WHEN is America going to wake up. WHAT WILL IT TAKE! I'm ashamed to be a citizen of this country. I'll say it. But when the shit hits the fan, and you finally all say "oh.................", i'm going to laugh. I'm going to laugh at you like I have never laughed before in my life. Call it cynical, thats ok. I think it will be to hard to control the laughter swelling up inside of me when you all realized that you over looked the worst travesties happening to you. And you just sit there. Just sit there and take it like the good puppet you are.


Let the "your wrong" and the "I still pay my taxes and have my job,car,money" bs kick in. I'm ready for it. Bring it on fools.

(Disclaimer : By "you", I mean every.....last.....one of you.)

First I must say that I did NOT mean to "thank" this post. I only hit the wrong key and there's no way to delete my "thanks".


I hear what you are saying about all those other issues.....wife and kids murdered.....etc...etc.....

BUT......this thread is not about those issues, is it? It's about the ass who flew his plane into the building in Austin, TX.
If you start a thread about the wars, Gitmo, etc......maybe we would say the same things there.

And I'm sure there already are threads around here about the wars. This just isn't it. So in this thread I'm only going to rant about this one particular fucktard.

[Ashlea?]

Let me itemize your idiocy here for a quick second.

1: There is a link under where it says "Thanks" next to my last post. It should say "Remove thanks" right underneath it. If not, it could be because you already posted and the forum will not let you remove it, but i'm pretty sure it should still be there.

2:Etc etc? Way to sympathize.

3: Maybe we should. Or remove the blinders. Your so stuck on the fact that this guy went into a building, rather than see the supposed motive behind this act? Why is it so hard for you to look at the reasoning behind this. How can you be so obtuse.

If you come back with some "innocent people" remark, I'm going to slap you with the same thing I just posted.

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

Let me itemize your idiocy here for a quick second.

1: There is a link under where it says "Thanks" next to my last post. It should say "Remove thanks" right underneath it. If not, it could be because you already posted and the forum will not let you remove it, but i'm pretty sure it should still be there.

2:Etc etc? Way to sympathize.

3: Maybe we should. Or remove the blinders. Your so stuck on the fact that this guy went into a building, rather than see the supposed motive behind this act? Why is it so hard for you to look at the reasoning behind this. How can you be so obtuse.

If you come back with some "innocent people" remark, I'm going to slap you with the same thing I just posted.

Hey...are you calling me an idiot?? Your remarks are uncalled for and rude! And reported.

[Ashlea?]

[quote]
Dear Judgey McJudgerson,

How dare you? This site is full of caring, loving and compassionate people.
Coming into a thread that is about a particular incident and finger pointing at everyone telling them they don't care about violence against women?[quote]

Just because I happened to dredge up a woman being killed, does not mean the incident was geared towards violence against women, but violence against humanity, mmkay thanks.

Logical line of thinking: If you fly a plane into a building where human beings work during work hours implies the intention of hurting not just the institution, but the people working in it.

Logical line of whateverwhatever : People don't just up and fly into buildings. Something sets them off. What might that be? Hm... I'm sure the fact that he is an incredibly intelligent person will not register with you.He's a psychopath right? Right.

Saying you will laugh at each and every one of us? A bit narcissistic.

Bit funny.

Please kindly put your finger back in you McNugget box and quit pointing it.

*Puts down buyersguide* mhmhm you can have them instead. Not my cup of tea..

Thank you,

Your welcome.

Appalled

Me too.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

What is the logic here really?
For all of you "quick-draw" insulter's, let me first point out my stance on this subject, AGAIN, as to avoid the onslaught of poo about to be flung my way.

I think the way this went about is being gravely misunderstood, as well as the motives and or reasoning behind this event.

*Prepares*

2 deaths (including pilot), 1 injury. Where is your uproar about murders happening all.......the.......time. Where is your defensive stance and pseudo-intellect thrashing when others are innocently killed? Nothing? No?

I don't hear you prancing around about the wife and 2 kids murdered with an axe by the husband. Is that not worthy of your rage? Where is it?

Where is your rage while people are being murdered by our own government, admittedly! Gitmo? Where! Where is your rage!

This man killed someone, that death is significant no matter the circumstance. But with the slew of evidence surrounding this case, is it not reasonable to think this intelligent man was not out on a killing spree, but rather made a series of bad decisions. No where is there evidence of him WANTING to kill people, no mention of it at all. Targeting the institution, yes, people, where? Are you really going to try and speculate on a dead man's final decisions? What gives you that right? Speculate all you want..."Why didn't he go to the other building, why not at another time, why why why"...it will never be answered.

Change has become the big bad boogie man of this country. No one wants to accept the events taking place by this government against its own citizens, this would mean change.

But no no, don't do anything about it. Sit back with your chair and your screen, and your Mcdonalds and your car and your job. It can't touch you! No no. Change is not in your vocabulary. You'll sit there while your job is being outsourced, your family..starving, as long as the government gives you the scraps from their spoils, your happy. Mhm.

When......WHEN is America going to wake up. WHAT WILL IT TAKE! I'm ashamed to be a citizen of this country. I'll say it. But when the shit hits the fan, and you finally all say "oh.................", i'm going to laugh. I'm going to laugh at you like I have never laughed before in my life. Call it cynical, thats ok. I think it will be to hard to control the laughter swelling up inside of me when you all realized that you over looked the worst travesties happening to you. And you just sit there. Just sit there and take it like the good puppet you are.


Let the "your wrong" and the "I still pay my taxes and have my job,car,money" bs kick in. I'm ready for it. Bring it on fools.

(Disclaimer : By "you", I mean every.....last.....one of you.)

Dear Judgey McJudgerson,

How dare you? This site is full of caring, loving and compassionate people.
Coming into a thread that is about a particular incident and finger pointing at everyone telling them they don't care about violence against women? Preposterous. Simply preposterous.

Logical line of thinking: If you fly a plane into a building where human beings work during work hours implies the intention of hurting not just the institution, but the people working in it.

Saying you will laugh at each and every one of us? A bit narcissistic.

You have no idea of the hearts of the humans here. Right here on this site.

Please kindly put your finger back in you McNugget box and quit pointing it.

Thank you,

Appalled

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by SuperFemme

Dear Judgey McJudgerson,

How dare you? This site is full of caring, loving and compassionate people.
Coming into a thread that is about a particular incident and finger pointing at everyone telling them they don't care about violence against women? Preposterous. Simply preposterous.

Logical line of thinking: If you fly a plane into a building where human beings work during work hours implies the intention of hurting not just the institution, but the people working in it.

Saying you will laugh at each and every one of us? A bit narcissistic.

You have no idea of the hearts of the humans here. Right here on this site.

Please kindly put your finger back in you McNugget box and quit pointing it.

Thank you,

Appalled

Have I mentioned lately that I love you???

[Corkey]

No where is their evidence of him WANTING to kill people, no mention of it at all. Targeting the institution, yes, people, where?

M.. Pardon me, but the last time I knew, this engineer fueled a plane with fuel, and with expressed intent to fly said plane into a building. Last I knew fuel is flammable and highly volatile. Now you want to say there is no evidence of him Wanting to kill people, what the hell else am I to think when a psychotic gets into a plane and flies into a building full of people?For pete sake take a breath and use your grey matter.

[AtLast]

I am so glad that I wasn’t reading and posting in this thread during the time some of the timed-out posting occurred. Since this happened, I have had a personal jolt come back that would have probably caused me to go off in a way that would get me permanently kicked outta here! I already was holding back with some of the posts.

I was very freaked-out when I heard about this. One reason was because we have quite a few members living in Austin and I do know some work in government offices. Secondly, the woman I was with for 21 years worked for the same agency in 1995 in which the head of the agency was killed by the Unabomber. As I was driving home from my office on the day that he had sent one of his packages to this office, I experienced fear and panic like I never have. The news on the radio was sketchy at best and I couldn’t reach her due to the chaos going on in that office. She was out in the field at the time of the incident and was OK, but I had no way of really knowing this.

I dated a woman from NY for a time and developed a close friendship with her that was in the Twin Towers on 9/11. And on that day I was once again awaiting news from relatives living in Pennsylvania near the site of the plane that was hijacked and went down. When I worked for a publicly funded AIDS foundation in the mid-1980’s, we were evacuated due to bomb threats more than a few times.

This stuff un-nerves me. I know it does for a lot of people. I also know that we in the US have no idea of what it is like to live with these kinds of threat every single day of our lives. Although, what about those that live in US cities in which drive-by shootings occur almost weekly? There are other examples.

So, even when I can understand some of the mistrust of government entities and even have some of my own reservations about government actions, the insensitivity of some of the posts truly amaze and appall me. Why people think that they can spew this stuff without regard for others that might have had similar experiences or live where these actions are part of their everyday life, boggles my sensibilities.

I bet that for every incident such as this, there are many people here that have had some kind of incident happen to them that evokes the very same feelings of panic, terror and pain. My experiences are not unique. Why posters would not consider this just plain makes me angry and I find this behavior to be the height of narcissistic thinking and personal entitlement.

[~Bo]

I agree completely. And as soon as I heard a plane flew into a building I instantly had a sick feeling in my stomach. Deja vu all over again?

[~Bo]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

What is the logic here really?
For all of you "quick-draw" insulter's, let me first point out my stance on this subject, AGAIN, as to avoid the onslaught of poo about to be flung my way.

I think the way this went about is being gravely misunderstood, as well as the motives and or reasoning behind this event.

*Prepares*

2 deaths (including pilot), 1 injury. Where is your uproar about murders happening all.......the.......time. Where is your defensive stance and pseudo-intellect thrashing when others are innocently killed? Nothing? No?

I don't hear you prancing around about the wife and 2 kids murdered with an axe by the husband. Is that not worthy of your rage? Where is it?

Where is your rage while people are being murdered by our own government, admittedly! Gitmo? Where! Where is your rage!

This man killed someone, that death is significant no matter the circumstance. But with the slew of evidence surrounding this case, is it not reasonable to think this intelligent man was not out on a killing spree, but rather made a series of bad decisions. No where is there evidence of him WANTING to kill people, no mention of it at all. Targeting the institution, yes, people, where? Are you really going to try and speculate on a dead man's final decisions? What gives you that right? Speculate all you want..."Why didn't he go to the other building, why not at another time, why why why"...it will never be answered.

Change has become the big bad boogie man of this country. No one wants to accept the events taking place by this government against its own citizens, this would mean change.

But no no, don't do anything about it. Sit back with your chair and your screen, and your Mcdonalds and your car and your job. It can't touch you! No no. Change is not in your vocabulary. You'll sit there while your job is being outsourced, your family..starving, as long as the government gives you the scraps from their spoils, your happy. Mhm.

When......WHEN is America going to wake up. WHAT WILL IT TAKE! I'm ashamed to be a citizen of this country. I'll say it. But when the shit hits the fan, and you finally all say "oh.................", i'm going to laugh. I'm going to laugh at you like I have never laughed before in my life. Call it cynical, thats ok. I think it will be to hard to control the laughter swelling up inside of me when you all realized that you over looked the worst travesties happening to you. And you just sit there. Just sit there and take it like the good puppet you are.


Let the "your wrong" and the "I still pay my taxes and have my job,car,money" bs kick in. I'm ready for it. Bring it on fools.

(Disclaimer : By "you", I mean every.....last.....one of you.)

*EDIT*
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/...ovt/index.html
^ Wanna hop on the band wagon on this one? Or............

And btw......be REAL careful who you call "fools".

[blush]

Well, since the title of the thread is "Small Plane Crashes in Austin" and not "How Outraged Are You By Everything In The World," I stuck to the topic.

The fact that these atrocities happen and continue to happen daily by our government is well-known. I'm simply addressing this man's actions. Because I'm calling out his bullshit doesn't mean I condone(or am unaware of) atrocities our government commits. Who posts like that anyway?

It certainly doesn't give him a pass on what he did. And flying a plane into a building is intent/evidence to kill a lot of people.

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

What is the logic here really?
For all of you "quick-draw" insulter's, let me first point out my stance on this subject, AGAIN, as to avoid the onslaught of poo about to be flung my way.

I think the way this went about is being gravely misunderstood, as well as the motives and or reasoning behind this event.

*Prepares*

2 deaths (including pilot), 1 injury. Where is your uproar about murders happening all.......the.......time. Where is your defensive stance and pseudo-intellect thrashing when others are innocently killed? Nothing? No?

I don't hear you prancing around about the wife and 2 kids murdered with an axe by the husband. Is that not worthy of your rage? Where is it?

Where is your rage while people are being murdered by our own government, admittedly! Gitmo? Where! Where is your rage!

This man killed someone, that death is significant no matter the circumstance. But with the slew of evidence surrounding this case, is it not reasonable to think this intelligent man was not out on a killing spree, but rather made a series of bad decisions. No where is there evidence of him WANTING to kill people, no mention of it at all. Targeting the institution, yes, people, where? Are you really going to try and speculate on a dead man's final decisions? What gives you that right? Speculate all you want..."Why didn't he go to the other building, why not at another time, why why why"...it will never be answered.

Change has become the big bad boogie man of this country. No one wants to accept the events taking place by this government against its own citizens, this would mean change.

But no no, don't do anything about it. Sit back with your chair and your screen, and your Mcdonalds and your car and your job. It can't touch you! No no. Change is not in your vocabulary. You'll sit there while your job is being outsourced, your family..starving, as long as the government gives you the scraps from their spoils, your happy. Mhm.

When......WHEN is America going to wake up. WHAT WILL IT TAKE! I'm ashamed to be a citizen of this country. I'll say it. But when the shit hits the fan, and you finally all say "oh.................", i'm going to laugh. I'm going to laugh at you like I have never laughed before in my life. Call it cynical, thats ok. I think it will be to hard to control the laughter swelling up inside of me when you all realized that you over looked the worst travesties happening to you. And you just sit there. Just sit there and take it like the good puppet you are.


Let the "your wrong" and the "I still pay my taxes and have my job,car,money" bs kick in. I'm ready for it. Bring it on fools.

(Disclaimer : By "you", I mean every.....last.....one of you.)

[Admin]

Originally Posted by Ashlea?

What is the logic here really?
For all of you "quick-draw" insulter's, let me first point out my stance on this subject, AGAIN, as to avoid the onslaught of poo about to be flung my way.

I think the way this went about is being gravely misunderstood, as well as the motives and or reasoning behind this event.

*Prepares*

2 deaths (including pilot), 1 injury. Where is your uproar about murders happening all.......the.......time. Where is your defensive stance and pseudo-intellect thrashing when others are innocently killed? Nothing? No?

I don't hear you prancing around about the wife and 2 kids murdered with an axe by the husband. Is that not worthy of your rage? Where is it?

Where is your rage while people are being murdered by our own government, admittedly! Gitmo? Where! Where is your rage!

This man killed someone, that death is significant no matter the circumstance. But with the slew of evidence surrounding this case, is it not reasonable to think this intelligent man was not out on a killing spree, but rather made a series of bad decisions. No where is there evidence of him WANTING to kill people, no mention of it at all. Targeting the institution, yes, people, where? Are you really going to try and speculate on a dead man's final decisions? What gives you that right? Speculate all you want..."Why didn't he go to the other building, why not at another time, why why why"...it will never be answered.

Change has become the big bad boogie man of this country. No one wants to accept the events taking place by this government against its own citizens, this would mean change.

But no no, don't do anything about it. Sit back with your chair and your screen, and your Mcdonalds and your car and your job. It can't touch you! No no. Change is not in your vocabulary. You'll sit there while your job is being outsourced, your family..starving, as long as the government gives you the scraps from their spoils, your happy. Mhm.

When......WHEN is America going to wake up. WHAT WILL IT TAKE! I'm ashamed to be a citizen of this country. I'll say it. But when the shit hits the fan, and you finally all say "oh.................", i'm going to laugh. I'm going to laugh at you like I have never laughed before in my life. Call it cynical, thats ok. I think it will be to hard to control the laughter swelling up inside of me when you all realized that you over looked the worst travesties happening to you. And you just sit there. Just sit there and take it like the good puppet you are.


Let the "your wrong" and the "I still pay my taxes and have my job,car,money" bs kick in. I'm ready for it. Bring it on fools.

(Disclaimer : By "you", I mean every.....last.....one of you.)

*EDIT*
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/...ovt/index.html
^ Wanna hop on the band wagon on this one? Or............

Ashlea?,

Your post has been reported for rude name-calling. Resorting to "Bring it on fools" is ugly, judgmental, and uncalled for. You need to communicate your anger without name-calling or kindly step back from the thread.

Thanks,
Admin