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Okay, give me your basic definition of the English language word lesbian. Just give us at this point where to start: those semantic features that are necessary and sufficient to add up to "lesbian"
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Tapu, please do not use the reputation comments to me to post critical/unfriendly remarks. My understanding is that that is against the TOS.
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But I'll read up on TOS before I post anything to or near you again.
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We should just ignore her. This is what happens so often. You are having a serious discussion, and a crackpot comes in and pushes everyone's buttons and derails it. She's having a good time, but everyone else is not.
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Please take your personal vendetta private or away, and discuss only the topic here. There must be something in the TOS about that.
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Some might do well to reread my definition and not saddle it with connotation.
For example, "like pussy exclusively" does not entail any nuances of "has to enjoy having hers touched," "has to touch it to like it." Also, a MTF trans qualifies if they have a pussy. Hey, words DO have meanings. Otherwise, this would be Babel....
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I don't mind people stepping outside the parlance. Matter of fact I honor it directly and personally with some MTF's I know. But they are special categories to "lesbian." The unmarked form does not include them.
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Please allow me to make something very clear. I don't care who thanks me or doesn't thank me. Who sends me messages or doesn't. I have no horse in this race and don't want one.
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MTFs and FTMs are human beings (not caveats or special categories) and they are lesbians if that is how they choose to identify. That's why I dislike your definition of lesbian based on anatomy. That's why MTFs aren't welcome at MichFest. Nobody qualifies or is disqualified based on what they have or don't have downstairs.
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"i need help from you, but understand i liked hearing your voice today" I can empathize with what comes before this one sentence then I am distracted by what feels to me like a play for emotional drainage or a play for money. I have seen it a lot in the online community so it is a red flag to me. I was concerned for you, nothing more. I just want to point out I feel your response to me to be short, dismissive, and insinuates that I am not "getting it". That is no way to have a reasonable conversation and totally goes against what we are trying to accomplish here.
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In an effort to avoid being further ostracised from that "we", I am now disengaging from this issue with you.
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I prefer to use legitimate definitions when making sweeping statements about the definitions of others sexuality, so I've chosen to use the Oxford Dictionary definition: a homosexual woman. Now, I like to do my due diligence, so let's check out the definition of homosexual: (of a person) sexually attracted to people of one’s own sex. But that's tricky, because sex and gender are not necessarily the same thing, and while the OED has a whole discussion on the difference between sex and gender, I think this discussion is off-topic enough. While I'd be thrilled to engage with you further about what "makes" someone a lesbian, this is neither the time nor place to do so.
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Guess you get the last word.
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Does this statement apply to you as we'll? Thanks you for clarifying ahead of time.
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