In Celebration of Butch Femininity

[Selenay]

Originally Posted by tapu

Okay, give me your basic definition of the English language word lesbian.

Just give us at this point where to start: those semantic features that are necessary and sufficient to add up to "lesbian"

I'd be happy to, but hopefully this will end the discourse, since we've now moved off topic.

I prefer to use legitimate definitions when making sweeping statements about the definitions of others sexuality, so I've chosen to use the Oxford Dictionary definition:
a homosexual woman.

Now, I like to do my due diligence, so let's check out the definition of homosexual:
(of a person) sexually attracted to people of one’s own sex.

But that's tricky, because sex and gender are not necessarily the same thing, and while the OED has a whole discussion on the difference between sex and gender, I think this discussion is off-topic enough. While I'd be thrilled to engage with you further about what "makes" someone a lesbian, this is neither the time nor place to do so.

[tapu]

Originally Posted by Selenay

I'd be happy to, but hopefully this will end the discourse, since we've now moved off topic.

I prefer to use legitimate definitions when making sweeping statements about the definitions of others sexuality, so I've chosen to use the Oxford Dictionary definition:
a homosexual woman.

Now, I like to do my due diligence, so let's check out the definition of homosexual:
(of a person) sexually attracted to people of one’s own sex.

But that's tricky, because sex and gender are not necessarily the same thing, and while the OED has a whole discussion on the difference between sex and gender, I think this discussion is off-topic enough. While I'd be happy to engage with you further about what "makes" someone a lesbian, this is neither the time nor place to do so.

Guess you get the last word.

[Kobi]

One of the saddest things in the world to me, is female to female misogyny. It is drilled into us from birth. We are taught that it is up to women to police other women. We are taught when a woman or group of women threaten to upset the status quo they must be silenced by any means possible.

Well done. The patriarchy is very proud of you.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by Kobi

One of the saddest things in the world to me, is female to female misogyny. It is drilled into us from birth. We are taught that it is up to women to police other women. We are taught when a woman or group of women threaten to upset the status quo they must be silenced by any means possible.

Well done. The patriarchy is very proud of you.

Does this statement apply to you as we'll? Thanks you for clarifying ahead of time.

[Martina]

Originally Posted by Kobi

One of the saddest things in the world to me, is female to female misogyny. It is drilled into us from birth. We are taught that it is up to women to police other women. We are taught when a woman or group of women threaten to upset the status quo they must be silenced by any means possible.

Well done. The patriarchy is very proud of you.

If I criticize another woman, that does not make it misogyny. I still think that holding up Megan Ellison as some kind of example is highly questionable. I have class politics too. It's not all about feminism all the time. And being a feminist doesn't mean you abandon reason and support all women regardless. There are some bad women out there.

How would we criticize Michelle Bachman or Megyn Kelly's insanity if we never questioned a word spoken by another woman?