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[QUOTE=J. Mason;401197]Yes you are correct. I think she has spoken to the boys about me in good context and I have never given her any reason to not trust me. Ohhh and this is someone who is NOT on this site, just to clear things up.[/QUt
I would think you would want to hang out with Mom first without the kids being involved, you don't even know if you can hang with this relationship why expose the kids? If you aren't gonna stick around for a long time there is no sense in meeting the kids until some kind of relationship or friendship is built and has some steady foundation. I could be wrong though... ![]()
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Oh of course I do wanna spend time with the mom without the boys thats a given.
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I can tell you from personal experience of being the child of a single mother who dated a lot and men were introduced quickly and often it was VERY confusing and hurt a lot when the relationship didn't go anywhere. Children are very resilient but at the same time, it is not fair to bring people into their lives that may not be there for the long haul. Kids don't understand the complexities.
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Maybe until you and her have some form of solid relationship or friendship, the kids should be kept out. It's only fair to them. Just a suggestion ![]()
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I'm kind of wondering if perhaps she isn't as comfortable and is bringing the teenagers with for emotional back up. Which if the case would send up a red flag for me. Not that I know her or you but it's kind of well, weird.
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I appreciate that, I made this thread for alot of open suggestions and opinions on the whole topic, I am glad to see positive posts.
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That being said, kids, especially teenagers, can sniff out a phony faster than a bloodhound!! Everyone who said don't try to buy the kids couldn't have been more dead on. Sure, the kids will enjoy whatever it is you spoil them with but they will absolutely see right through you and the best you can hope for then will be polite manipulation. My best advice is to be genuine and take the time to get to know the kids. Spend time with them and let them know that you sincerely accept them as part of the package. Respect is indeed a two way street, especially with teenagers who are quickly approaching young adulthood. Respect that these boys are their mother's first priority in the world regardless of their age and know that the way you treat their mom will directly impact your relationship with them and thus your relationship with her! Also know that if you attempt to compete with them, you will lose so don't try ... there are so many different ways to love, strive to make the love between the two of you special while accepting that the love between a mother and her children is always paramount. |
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After reading the posts, as a mom, I'd like to add my two cents. From what was written, it seems that you will be meeting the kids the first time the two of you meet. No disrespect towards you or your date, but I don't think that's such a good idea. I've never let my son meet anyone I've dated on our first date, and especially not the first time I've ever met in person. Again, this is not meant to be disrespectful, but you never REALLY know someone until you spend some actual face-time with them. I just think a first meeting is way too soon to involve the kids.
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I was blessed with three beautiful children out of relationships, all when they were about 5, they remain MINE to this day, (Laura RIP), They were always first, and responded to the love they felt all around. As I have gotten older and been with women with adult children, they have become mine as well, and I cherish those relationships. I have always understood my place, and respected their relationships with their Mom. Syl has a 15 and 18 yr old, and we are developing relationships. Some days are good and some days are not,lol. Be real, be PRESENT, respect everyone, and understand that no matter how old they are they will call crying and YOUR needs will not matter a hooot. Best of luck!
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The father being in the picture is not always a bad situation. Just sayin'.
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I am just stating the father doesn't automatically equal a bad situation. It's more effective for all concerned to judge it on a case by case basis.
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The statement about the kids being like bloodhounds... If that were true than why do we have all the issues with breakups, dating, etc?
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I am a mother of 5, yes 5. I met my partner, Cruel, 9 years ago. Cruel had no children and was pretty sure would not date someone that had children. Boy, did I *show* her....lol Cruel knew of my kids right away, but did not meet them for a couple months. We dated, we got to know one another as best we could, but I am not sure one can ever prepare themselves enough - only as best as possible.
Cruel and I had talks about parenting skill, issues we might face that possibly could cause conflict, boundaries, money, education, employment, etc. We found situations periodically that caused conflict or caused us to examine what was behind the way we were feeling/thinking/acting. We sought out counseling at one point and it was such a turning point. This didn't have so much to do with the issues at hand, but more in the way we were communicating ourselves. We have had to deal with a father that was constantly surfacing in a neg. light and the feelings that brought about for our kids and in turn us. One thing we agree that we never discussed was the age of the kids when we started our relationship and how their development(in many areas) and level of maturity may also play a role in how they accept/deny a relationship or the incoming partner. I have the utmost respect and admiration for the task my Cruel took on and the growth that has taken place over the years. We are better individuals because of each other and because of that fact we are a better couple and better parenting unit. I am a firm believer in getting to know the person face to face and taking your time to do so. When and if the time is right then meet the kids. Get to know the kids slowly and in doing so experience how the parent is with their child(ren). Perhaps you won't like how they interact with one another. Perhaps it will bring up some issues from your own childhood/past. Prepare yourself for the fact the parent could like you, but the kids not so much. Then what??? No matter what you two adults choose to do please remember the kids are impacted by everything. Of course they are resilient beings, but sometimes they are unnecessarily involved in situations or decisions that could've been put off until a more appropriate time or avoided altogether.
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As someone with kids, I have a few thoughts as they relate to me and my children...
*rather than gifts, my kids would prefer time/attention, but only if it is shared in a genuine manner; but if you must present a gift, make it one that shows you put some thought and effort into it. Do NOT buy any gift that adds to my expenses. A puppy is cute & all but I have to pay a pet deposit of $400 if you show up with one. *ALL ages of kids have their good & bad times; my 13 year old is probably easier to be around than my 7 year old b/c my oldest can sit and have an intelligent conversation with you while my 7 year old won't have much to talk about beyond 7 year old things *my kids come first-period. But my situation is different. My kids go to their dad's place on "his weekends" and they go visit my mom on "my weekends." So, I actually have a decent amount of alone/adult time. *I do not expect someone to be a surrogate parent. My children have a mother and a father and both are present in the kids lives. Anyone else should be a friend, role model, confidant etc. Not that they are less important, they just have a different place in the kids lives. *I struggle with how soon someone meets my kids. A friend once advised that I let people meet the kids early on, to establish that my kids ARE part of my life. But, on the other hand, I am pretty protective. Anyone who meets my kids early on is introduced as "my friend." Families are well worth the investment in time/effort. But not everyone is made to date a family. I have dated women in the past who just could not handle it and things ended. And I respect them for having gotten out when they did, rather than everyone be miserable. ![]()
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Seems to me that the problem here is with the father, not the kids. Your s/o needs to address this issue-both with the father & the children. She may not be able to change the father's attitude but maybe she can use it in a lesson to the kids of "how people sometimes are hurt or angry and they say mean, untrue things about other people." The main thing is to not sink to that level & say mean things in return. Kids are not pawns.
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